TIME Person of the Year 13 décembre 2021 Conversation avec le rédacteur en chef de TIME après avoir été désigné Personnalité de l'année 2021, à propos de la richesse, des véhicules électriques, de SpaceX et de ses perspectives.
Conversation avec le rédacteur en chef de TIME après avoir été désigné Personnalité de l'année 2021, à propos de la richesse, des véhicules électriques, de SpaceX et de ses perspectives.
Transcription Interviewer
What's more important, rockets or cars? Actually that's a good first question.
Elon Musk
Well, I guess, I guess they're both important. I guess my career is Mars and cars.
Interviewer
Mars and cars.
Elon Musk
So you know, I think we need to transition to sustainable energy and become a spacefaring civilization, starting with space.
Interviewer
Why haven't you gone? You know, Bezos went up, Branson went up. Do you want to go up? Is that on your to do list in 22 or how do you think about that yourself? I
Elon Musk
will go up at some point, but the, I mean there is an underlying philosophy that, by which I aspire to guide my actions and that is to take the set of actions that maximize the probability that the future is good and hopefully not pave the road to hell with good intentions. So the, you know, SpaceX is, the point of SpaceX is to help make humanity a space faring civilization and ultimately a multi planet species so as to expand the scope and scale of consciousness and ultimately better understand what questions to ask about the answer, which is the
Interviewer
universe switching to risk in the context of Tesla and autopilot auto driving. I mean, and one of our competitors had a big piece on that this weekend that it's not all the way thought through and it's, you know, back to risk. How do you think about. Obviously that's not zero risk either. You're paving the way in that area.
Elon Musk
Autonomy, it's an incredibly important innovation because people spend hours, many hours a week, ultimately many months of their lives probably in cars and stuck in traffic. And then there's a lot of people that die in auto accidents worldwide there's about a million automotive deaths per year, so the vast majority of which are due to driver error. So, and so if we can have autonomy that would potentially solve, you know, save on the order of a million lives per year. And there's about 10 million serious accidents where there's a permanent injury per year. So it's one of those things where, you know, you're not going to get rewarded for necessarily for the, for lives that you save, but you will definitely be blamed for lives that you don't save. So and I mean there's a, there was a, you know, something, sorry, something somebody said to me at the beginning of when we pursuing autonomy. He said that, you know, even if you save 90% of the lives, the 10% that you don't save are going to sue you.
Interviewer
Right. A lot of people are worried about democracy, the future of democracy, the state of democracy. Part of that's tied to Silicon Valley.
Elon Musk
We have democracy?
Interviewer
Well, I don't know. Yeah. Are you? My question is, are you worried about democracy?
Interviewer
Here, for a start. Here.
Elon Musk
Things are going okay in the grand scheme of things. You know, it's easy to complain, but I mean, the fact of the matter is this is the most prosperous time in human history, so. But people's expectations always adjust to however good things get. People's expectations will always kind of recalibrate to how things are. But, you know, if we stand back and say, like, okay, is there really some point in history where you'd rather be? And by the way, have you actually read history? This wasn't great. So I think, you know, we should be, I think, probably happier with the way things are than maybe sometimes people are.