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I've heard people say listen he's out-of-the-box thinker he's a businessman he's an entrepreneur but people that know this man I wouldn't say you would say I'm normally a business plan you're not a businessman no no what are you I'm gonna show there's probably lots of analyst on Wall Street who agree that I'm not a businessman okay well what do you think you are I'm engineer like engineering in design but you're not a businessman well I mean I don't sort of like look at things from like what's the rank ordered list of priorities or based on a return on investment just a Mac that I don't really do any investments I've been on the own wine in public security and that's Tesla that's it I've no diversity in terms of public securities I've heard you describe

yourself as a technologist yes exactly technologists make new technologies create new technologies is it your is it your dream to conquer the world and make the world a better place to what is your dream technologies like magic you know to put I mean I don't like technologies the closest thing to magic that we have in the real world and so I think like engineering creative engineering is essentially technology development and I just move us when I said I like Lord of the Rings is my favorite book is it yeah that's really like what's the closest thing to being a wizard in the real world and that's like creating new technologies