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Überraschungsauftritt bei CPAC: Nachdem Argentiniens Javier Milei ihm eine Kettensäge überreicht, spricht Musk mit Newsmax-Moderator Rob Schmitt über DOGE, seine politische Wende und seine Sicherheitsängste.
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[Music] [Applause] man that is a big crowd and they are not here for me how you guys doing nice Vibe this year right after the best month we've ever had nice to see you all thanks for coming out good to see you I'm not going to kill any more time let's bring out Elon Musk going to stay up for one second hey guys [Applause] we've got we've got one more we've got one more surprise in case this wasn't enough I'm going to let Elon do it who else is here uh well president uh president Malay has a gift for me Javier Malay from Argentina you guys know who that is [Applause] right why don't we bring him out [Applause] [Music] [Applause] this is the Chainsaw for bureaucracy chainsaw [Applause] that's perfect all right I love it Mr President thank you so much all
right thank you thank you sir nice to meet you I love it we love it we love it all right they told me to put this right should we put it they want it right here all right great a little stage prop love you I love you guys too thanks guys have a [Applause] seat so [Applause] uh that was something I am become meme yeah pretty much I'm just I'm living the meme it's like there's living the dream and there's is loving the meme and it's pretty much what's happening you know you're like I think you're bigger I mean Doge started out as a meme think about it now it's real isn't that crazy it is it is crazy but it's cool let me ask you this a year ago if someone had told you you'd be at CPAC and working with the president to absolutely Shred the government the
swamp whatever you want to call it would you ever believe that no no me neither but it's cool uh this is awesome and and I I just want to say you know thanks for your support I mean guys are you know so um I mean you know we're trying to get get good things done but also like you know have a good time doing it and uh you know and have like a sense of humor you know so like like I mean the the the the sort of the the left wanted to make comedy illegal you know like you can't make fun of anything so it was like comedy sucks it's like nothing's funny you can't make fun of anything it's like legalize comedy yeah legalize comedy and we we' we've shifted the entire culture in just the last few months the whole culture of this country has shifted dramatically
just because of that election yeah exactly uh you know freedom of speech having you know having fun again it seems like we should have we should have a good time you know it I mean it's it's a great time if everybody in this place is so excited and I haven't I mean when you talk to conservatives everybody's happy yeah uh and everybody feels this great sense of relief because we were going to hell for about four years it really felt bad especially toward the end it felt really bad yeah I thought we I I thought we were sort of heading for a point in no return really you know um until that's why it was so essential that President Trump win the election um and uh and that there there'll be a republican majority in the House and Senate uh which thanks to you
that that has been accomplished yeah yeah I want to ask you one of the biggest questions I have for you is and you you've been you know politically you weren't really on one side of the other for a long time you're a businessman a lot of people stay away from it now you're on a side and you've chosen a side you're sitting here in a magah hat what what's it you know how did that happen what was the moment it's like you know dark Gothic magot that's a good one and what was there a specific moment was there a moment that it all changed yeah when I realized it was a fool um but no I it was I guess uh yeah I mean I'd say like I politically neutral for for quite a while um you know you know leaning a little Democrat uh you know how do you go from that to this
how does that happen well did they go crazy yeah they did they did go crazy yeah they went crazy no I mean that whole cancel culture and and uh you know it's trying to uh stop freedom of speech and um infringe upon just in general infringe upon people's personal freedoms you know they just want State Control State control of what you say they they want to you know take away your your guns um and the reason I want to take away your guns so like there's nothing do to oppose them so it's sort of like uh you know I just I just like we just need to restore the the fundamental elements of what made America great which is uh freedom and opportunity um we're we're seeing a lot of these freedoms disappearing in the west it's it's not just about America we're watching
we're all watching Europe and knowing that they're about 00 years ahead of us right because they got an early start and we're watching how they're devolving and you're trying to save it from happening here no I mean in Europe they put people in prison for memes yeah you know I'm like that's insane and they're collapsing I mean this a society is it's a collapsing Society it feels that way it feels like France was nicer 50 years ago than it is today yeah I don't think you can question that yeah um so but yeah I mean really thanks I love you too I do um I mean I I really I I really just wanted to do useful things like you know basically build products you know provide products and services that that are that are good and uh that that I wasn't really like
that interested in being political um it just like there was at a certain point no choice yeah U so yeah can I can I ask you what on the same side of that coin what's it like from going neutral to being vilified largely vilified by the med like you're what the no really I mean you turn on some of these channels brother I mean they don't they're angry you does it bother you at all this to you uh there I mean when they're chanting for my death I suppose that's a little you know um but and then like the song's not even that good and I like like Co that a death chant that's nothing please they've been singing a lot lately even good music there's a lot of music lately it's not good music either yeah yeah um I would say that there you know watching what you're
doing with do is is just people love it I mean I I've always looked at the government and I've I've always looked at the government I've seen this big machine that and you just know they waste because they don't care nobody can there's more money coming they don't care you're cutting all this out everybody in this country knows that the government is full of waste Fraud and Abuse and you're doing the work and the Americans love it watching their reaction politically to this I can't believe how bad they are at responding to this I don't know how you're going to sit there and and scream and complain because they're cutting waste out of the government and try to win another election how how do you try to win on that well I'm at this point I'm like I'm not
sure how much of the left is even real yeah you know uh how much was propped up by our money you know yeah yeah like literally you know you see like these these sort of fake rallies where there's like hardly any any people and the media will like frame it and like you know get full six people you know in the frame but it's like nobody else is there like just it it doesn't have popular support um but but but there's but but then you then you you learn that like there's hundreds of billions of dollars going to these so-called ngos yeah uh that that that and and it's your tax dollars that are funding things that are fundamentally anti-American and and they're propping up their narrative yes a lot of that government money has been propping up a left that
I don't think is as strong as they made it seem in fact a massive amount of of your tax dollars is going to Legacy Media companies yes uh directly from the from from the government the government wants to take over media yeah it's terrible yeah that's why we have X yeah and that's that's why you spent $44 billion I mean that's a lot of money I mean more than it was probably worth but it had a there was a message freedom is priceless priceless yeah probably one of the most important Investments this country's ever seen if you got to protect the First Amendment it's not much more important than that yeah I mean I I got a lot of CR criticism and people said well that proves he's a huge idiot from a you know like look you know he bought for whatever $44 billion
an now worth like8 cents and it's not worth any sense but but you know there the but but the yeah it was essentially to you know buy freedom of expression um and uh yeah once that's gone it's all over it's all over yeah sent into tyranny is really quick after that yeah I mean like you know it's so all all the all the sort of federal money going to Media companies is what what helps explain why the Legacy Media all says the same thing at the same time yeah like doesn't it like it's like weird like you you put them up where it's like you know like when they you know mouthpieces for for the state for the state yes and that's that's what we've come to know um yeah scary and and and I like that that mean when where they because they're always saying like threat
to our democracy threat to but if you just replaced democracy with bureaucracy yeah it makes a lot of sense makes perfect sense yeah Big Stretch to the bureaucracy that's exactly right let's talk about let's talk about these Doge dividend checks that everybody's talking about this week and I know you tweeted out that you're going to is everybody want like a $5,000 check in the mail it sounds kind of good right and and the best part about it would be knowing where it came from that that's five grand that you sent them last year totally it's it's it's it's money that's taken away from from things that are destructive to the country that and from organizations that hate you to you that's awesome is it does it seem I mean have you talked to I me that's like
glorious that's like best The Spoils of battle you know I like that is there is there traction on that yeah yeah so yeah uh yeah yeah I took the president and he's supportive of that and um so it sounds like you know that's something we're we're going to do yep um so as as we're finding savings that's going to translate directly to reductions in tax so yeah they I mean I think they fired 6,000 people at the IRS today um and I think letnik said last night that they're talking about shutting down the IRS uh and I I I I think it's fair I think people should realize this is I mean the amount of money that we we send Washington like five or six trillion a year that is such an ungodly amount of money I mean what do they they say like a trillion seconds is like
30 years or something like that I mean that's how much we send them and they seem to never have enough there's must be a lot you can cut no absolutely the people ask me what's the most surprising thing that you've encountered when you go to DC you know when you're in DC and and I I said well the most surprising thing is the scale of the expenditures and actually um how easy it is to with a just just when you add caring and competence where it was absent before you can actually save billions of dollars sometimes in this in an hour yeah like it's it's wild and then they scoff at it and say oh a few billion here there I mean the way they're talking about it they they you can see they don't care it's it's so it's such little money compared to how much they're
used to wasting that's what's really scary um yeah no I mean ex exactly but obviously it's it's it just shows that they they really lack empathy for the average taxpayer who's working hard paying paying taxes and then and then they say oh a million dollars doesn't matter I'm like I think it matters a lot people you know so what are you talking about I'd like to have it um let me ask you a question I you know I know the president fairly well watched him survive two assassination attempts the second had the first one not happened the second one would have gotten him you know it was very cuz without those extra guys they would have never seen that gun poking through the fence at the golf course um I saw the crew that the mind-blowing that this has happened
I mean it just and and what by the way why do we still know nothing about that guy in Butler what's going on um but uh he's he cash is going to get to the bottom of it yeah there you go by the way yeah confirm confirmed just a couple hours ago but I I saw that the security detail that you had come in is is enormous well it's not that enormous maybe it should be bigger I don't know I think you can probably afford it but I mean how concerned are you about your safety dealing I mean it's you are you are a wanted man are you are you nervous so I I look I'm open to ideas for improving security I have to tell you um like I I I don't actually have a death wish I think um I but but uh you know it's not that easy uh so uh yeah I mean but but I have like I've had
even like people like President belli from El Salvador who who managed to put in prison like like 100,000 like mous thugs and and he was like he called me he's like I'm worried about your security I'm like you're you're worried about my security I'm like what okay you know I mean yeah yeah talk about guts to do that down there I mean yeah totally and and survive I'm like I was like how did you put all those thugs in prison without dying cuz seems like that would have been not easy you know well there's a the the president has one of his top attorneys is now investigating I guess Chuck Schumer for threats against scotus a congressman on the Democrat side for saying you know basically saying he going to bring a war to you like a fight to you I mean the
rhetoric you guys are screwing with things that are not supposed to be messed with and we're fighting mat a lot of people that really don't want that to happen yeah we're fighting The Matrix big time here um yeah but has got to be done yeah um and you it certainly does um what's what's going on with tell us about Fort Knox yeah it's Kentucky it's a military base it's a ton of gold tons and tons and tons of gold 5,000 tons of gold or 5,000 of gold are there in the ground and like this I mean it's a very secure we all want to see it I'd love to see it like this is your gold by the way it's the it's the Public's gold do you think it's not there I don't know we just want to see it yeah we want to go see it and just make sure like somebody did a spray paints
some or something you know yeah like is this real gold B the bite the bar you know didn't D um but I think honestly you know part of this also is just like let's let's you know let's have some fun and and and uh you know like like I said this this all this gold at Fort Knox it's the Public's gold it's your gold so like I think you have like a right to see it take a tour you know yeah I think we should have a do do a a tour and then the president last night was like that's not I think he's in favor of it that would be cool and then like it should be like a live tour like you can see what's going on open the door like what's behind it well and this you know I think I'd watch that oh are you kidding yeah I mean what is what is 5,000 tons of gold look what
how big is that is it is it the size of this it's got to be pretty big you know it's got to be a lot of there's some other stuff in there like just walk around like I don't know maybe they got some other stuff in there are are you thinking about auditing the Federal Reserve as well which is obviously is it yeah sure regulatory economy I I imagine you think the waste has got to be everywhere yeah no waste waste is pretty much everywhere people ask like how can you find waste in in like in DC I'm like look it's like being in a room uh and this tet the the wall the roofs and the floor are all Targets so it's like you're going to close your eyes and go shoot in any direction you can't miss you know um so it's it's it's pretty wild like like you just push
on things a little bit and and you save billions of dollars like just a little bit you know it's wild it's scary isn't it it's that's why I say like I it really is underrated if you add caring and competence how much things improve yeah um and and you know and we we just find so many totally crazy things which you know obviously we're sharing with the public WE Post everything we learn um you know just yeah you know um so you can see it you know what do you and like it's like isn't it like it's to totally while like we did just we just did like a check the database on Social Security like says how many alive Americans alive Americans eligible for Social Security are there and according to the database it's over 400 million and we're like wait a second
um and how many are getting old again yeah and and then like we found like one person in there is like 360 years old I'm like what they know b or I mean you know America doesn't exist before at that time like so I so yeah we were col I you know maybe it's just me but I think it's a red flag I don't know um but are there indications that those that there were checks going to those people or any of those people well yeah that's I guess the question right this I mean I get the Social Security Administration is dumb but are they paying these people are they that dumb I don't know a bunch of money is going out from the Social Security Administration and in fact from all entitlements programs billion in waste in like 7 years that's 10 billion a year well I
I think the the fraudulent payments the the rough or estimate from uh General government accountability office is on is over $500 billion a for a year 500 billion and how long the time of per year per year on on Social Security no no on on all on all government on all entitlements all entit all entitlements yeah yeah um it sort of actually makes sense when you look at the thing from a top level in like okay the $7 trillion was spending by the government what percentage do you think is fraudulent okay exactly like a conservative estimate of the 7 trillion would be 10% conservative probably a little higher than that yeah exactly feels like a quarter out every dollar right but if if if the Fraud's only 10% of 7 trillion you've got $700 billion of fraud yeah
and by the way it's it's like really easy to take advantage of the federal government it's very easy very easy look at Co yes everybody got rich during Co I mean look at all these scers I mean it's unbelievable we we um it it looks like for in terms of the co payments yeah uh there was something like $200 billion of of Co payment fraud taken by frauders out of the country out of the country that's like like I think listen if there going to be fraud it should at least be domestic yeah so you know but they manag to get $200 billion out of the country I'm like what didn't we notice that let me ask you let's do immigration here for a second um you know there's this move now that Trump's lat is saying is that he cut he's going to cut funding any kind of money
that ends up in the hands of illegal immigrants so if you're funding these Sanctuary cities and states that's how they Thrive right they're paying for these hotels that's all federal money if you got a hotel in your city in New York you got all these hotels full of migrants that's not State money that's the feds are covering that he's going to cut all that it's really hard to deport 15 million people and it seems like the move now is let's see if we especially at the rate that we're going it seems like the move now is let's make it so that they leave on their own if there's no longer a dole system for them if they can't get their hands on hotel rooms and money they're going to go back especially if there's no work well I think it's really important for
people to understand that the P the Biden Administration sent any possible money that they could they could if there was money they could send to uh facilitate and amplify illegal immigration they sent it okay they took money from FEMA meant for helping Americans in distress and sent that money to luxury hotels for legal immigrants in New York that is a an outrage yeah they actually did that and and not only that even after the president signed an executive order saying it has to stop the femous the the the sort of whatever deep State bureaucrats still still pressed send on $80 million last week to go to the Rosal Hotel in New York and other places last week and now and now they're mad that they got stopped and they're like trying to sue to have it be
restored it's like the gumption is you think they're creating a new voter class would you think that was the goal when they open up the bers for four years create a new voter class get them citizenship get them in cards vote a lot of these things like you don't actually have to assume some Grand conspiracy you just need to look at basic incentives benefits so if the incentives fundamentally if if the probability that an illegal is going to vote Democrat at some point um whether it's a you know cheating but eventually they can become citizens but if the if probability is like 80 90% you just look at California which is super majority Dem um and then the incentive is to maximize the number of illegals in the country that is why the Biden Administration
was uh pushing to get in as many illegals as possible and spend every dollar possible to get as many because every one of them is a customer every one of them is a voter yeah so the whole thing was a giant voter importation scam pretty obvious very obvious and and then they moreover then they they they actually created the cvp1 Border app thing where they they were which is like where they could they were literally fly people in it's not like like at the point in which you know uh people are being flown in at at your expense sending planes building a wall fly them over the Border yeah they're literally flying them in no other no other country in the world would do something like this nobody is as stupid yeah and and then we found that it was like a $100
million uh contract given to some guy in uh London actually odly enough yeah for the CVP one app uh so so so they're they're flying uh illegals into the swing States yeah and and if you've got like a marinate victory of maybe 20,000 people and you fly 200,000 legals into that state it's not going to be a swing state for long change the numbers eventually maybe maybe in four or eight years you're ex it's a long game it's just a matter of time uh so it might take like a year for an asy Seeker or something to get on the to get a green card then five years for the citizenship it's it's it's an investment that is guaranteed to pay off yeah just a question of when they all remember who brought them in and who left them here exactly exactly I want to go back
I want to talk about deal like I think a lot of people like don't quite appreciate that this was an actual real scam at scale to tilt the scales of Democracy in America treasons treason yeah yeah um one more Biden question I I remember when you know when they would do the electric car stuff they would always try to box you out even though you have the only electric car anybody wants um yeah you you said I think this week that you think that Biden left these astronauts up in space because he didn't want to give you an opportunity to save them make NASA look bad make the private sector look better make you look good you believe that yeah yeah no absolutely so the of course I I kind of agree I mean I um why would he want to let you help them come down when
you're supporting the President Biden Administration was was attacking me next level uh I mean the department of of Justice or Injustice under the Biden Administration um was I mean there was suing SpaceX there there suing SpaceX for not hiring Asylum Seekers and we're like but it's actually illegal for us to hire Asylum Seekers because we're rocket technology is covered under uh itar rules which is that means it's an advanced weapons technology yeah and so we can only hire permanent residents or green or or or citizens right like so so we're damned if we do it damned if we don't we said like so how can they sue us for not hiring Asylum Seekers when it's actually illegal for us to do so but nonetheless there was a big Department of Justice or Injustice
case about this against SpaceX so obviously it was an antagonistic situation um and those astronauts were supposed to be up there for 8 days and now they're up there for eight months does that make any sense and and and we we we obviously could have brought them back sooner but they didn't want it to didn't want anyone who supported president Trump to look good basically yeah that's the that's the that's the issue the um a lot of them are saying right now that the reason that you want to get into Social Security that you want to get into all of these different into Treasury and things like that is that you're looking for personal information and you're trying to make more money yeah I I've never met anybody as rich as you that cared less about money in
my life every time I hear a story about you you're sleeping on a couch of some other guy in a city that you could buy the entire thing yeah I'm not I don't think you care about money do you no actually I I I mean listen like if I if I steal some social security I can finally buy nice [Laughter] things and and and on that same question they're also talking about you guys are going to end Social Security you're going to end Medicare you're going to end these things I I don't imagine that conversation has been had with the president and that's that's the plan no in fact the actions that we're taking uh with the support of the president and the support of the agencies is what will save Medicare what will save Social Security yeah um and and it's it because
if the country goes insolvent if if if all the if all the money is just spent on paying interest on debt there's no money left for anything yeah so that's that's the reason I'm doing this is because I'm I was looking at the big picture here and it's like man our debts getting out of control uh the the interest payments interest on the national debt now exceeds the entire defense department budget it's a trillion a year in interest just to carry the money that we owe is a trillion a year that is unbelievable and Rising rapidly it's so so like it's I mean a country is not different from a person country overspends country goes bankrupt same with same as a person who overspends goes bankrupt so it's it's not like optional to solve these things it's essential
um so we're going to go bankrupt yes we are um couple minutes left here um Russia um there's a huge push from the yeah people like like say like uh you know I I'm I'm a I'm a bought asset of Putin I'm like he can't afford me yeah I think I think you're worth more than Russia think about it I like that so we you're trying to end you're trying to end a war it's all ending a war always means you have to compromise you have to negotiate with an enemy or an adversary that's just what it is and right now they are Lassing the president for trying a different method to a war that they haven't been able to end for three and a half years or three years yeah they you know they're saying Trump's blaming zalinsky for The Invasion how do you how do you process all
of the negativity toward him for trying to end this war well first of all I think we should have empathy for the people dying at the front lines that's the most important thing and people have been dying you know it's like H how many more years is this supposed to go on yeah and imagine if that was your son your father at you know what what are they dying for yeah what exactly are they dying for that line has bar the line of Engagement has barely moved for 2 years yeah there's a whole much of people dead in trenches For What and I I'll tell you what for what it's like for the biggest graph machine that I've ever seen in my life that's for what it's it's unreal like the the the amount of money that that is being taken in in graft and bribery is is disgusting
um and and so what's actually happening is that those those you know PE those poor guys are getting sent into a meat grinder for money that's what's actually going on yeah and it needs to stop and that's I mean that's it seems I mean Trump is so pragmatic on this he just he's just looking at it and he's saying it's Ukraine it's not our country it's not a NATO Ally I just want to see people not dying I want to see on both sides I mean think about how many young so many young men have died in Ukraine that the Army is starting to age out the military is aging out you got 40 and 50y old guys fighting in a war because there's nobody left that's not killed or maned in their 20s that is that's the reality of it think about how many people that is if you're a
humanitarian at all you just got to end the war like no matter what just get it over with yes people they need to stop dying um and uh and and the gri machines got to stop you know so uh and I think people that don't a lot of people out there don't realize like the president has a lot of empathy he really cares you know he's a good he's a good man um so I got one more for you um I've been fascinated by you for a very long time uh thanks um I've just I just I've never seen anybody that can you know do so many things at the same time I mean you got the Rockets you got the cars I've always wanted to ask you what is it like inside your mind like does is it just a th000 miles an hour I mean are you yeah is it just not I mean does does it ever stop do you sleep
how much do you sleep What's um paint us a picture of inside of of the mind of of a genius like how do you how do you do all this can you answer that question it's not an easy question yeah I mean my mind is a storm yeah so it's a storm but but I mean Let Me Maybe tell you something like you didn't ask the question but but I I think it's worth kind of nonetheless maybe just just elaborating on something which is um you know I grew up in in South Africa and and but my morality was informed by America um I read comic books you know played Dungeons and dragon and and um I watched American TV shows and it like it seemed like America cared about being the good guys you know about doing the right thing and and and that's actually pretty unusual by the way yeah
it's like it's like in the world it's very unusual yeah it's not like actually most countries don't do that no they don't don't no um and so I was like yeah you know you want to be the good you want to be on the side of good you want to care about what's right and um and uh yeah so that's that's uh yeah what I believe in you know so I gave you I gave you a tough one at the end yeah so yeah that's great that's great Elon Musk all right than you thank you so much all right I appreciate thank you so all right hey guys [Applause] [Music] [Applause] sir thank you [Music] thanks guys [Music] [Applause]