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Musk répond aux questions du public lors d'un town hall d'America PAC avant l'élection à la Cour suprême du Wisconsin, distribue des chèques d'un million de dollars et soutient que ce scrutin compte au niveau national.

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Tenu à Green Bay le 30 mars 2025 ; un town hall de style campagne mêlant questions du public et le discours de Musk sur les « juges activistes ».

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Hello everybody. Hello. Hello. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Well, welcome to Elon Musk's Green Bay Town Hall and thank you for signing the petition against activist judges. I mean, this is all about getting out to vote on Tuesday to elect Brad Shiml as the next justice of the Wisconsin Supreme Court. It's so crucial we do that. You know, I've been traveling around with Brad.

And by the way, I don't I don't know and I see Governor Walker here. I know he was a tireless campaigner. I don't know of any candidate that I've seen in my years now in the business campaign more tirelessly than than Brad Shiml. He's just been phenomenal. And you know, he's not doing it for himself. He's doing it to save the court, to save Wisconsin, to save America. Let's let's be honest.

So, so I'm traveling around the bus with him the last couple days and then we do what they call press gaggles and and we go up and talk to the press and every question is about Elon, Elon, Elon, Elon. Now, I don't know, I don't know about you, I think what Donald Trump and Elon Musk is doing in terms of the doge movement is brilliant. What do you guys think?

[Applause] I mean, what what Elon and his group of geniuses is uncovering, it's just it should outrage every American. You know what what what the government has been spending and wasting our money on. I mean, that should be, like I say, outrageous. Every American should be outraged by that, but but the left isn't. No, in instead they're attacking Elon. They're they're they're firebombing his cars in his dealerships.

That by the way, where where's the outrage to that form of domestic terrorism? So that that's really what this is all about. I mean, we've got we've got leftists that want to impose their ideology on us through the court system, right? um they they they don't care who or what they destroy in their quest for power. We can't get let them get away with it. Now, 1. 7 million Wisconsinites voted for Donald Trump, right?

God bless you all for doing that. If you want Donald Trump to be able to serve four years effectively, do do all the things he's doing. And by the way, I can't believe how boldly and swiftly and decisively he is acting to fulfill his campaign promises. But you'll notice you'll notice the activist judges, the the radical leftists, the the super legislators on the courts are issuing national injunctions against what he's trying to do.

what we wanted him to do, what the people elected him to do. We can't let that continue. Now, what should happen is is John Roberts ought to reign those judges in. He ought to take care of his own branch of government. But what we need to do here in Wisconsin is we need to return our Supreme Court to one that has justices and judges. And by that, I mean people who will apply the law, not alter it. We're not looking for super legislators.

And again, it's a real disadvantage conservatives have is, you know, when when I vote to confirm a Supreme Court nominee. I know I'm not going to like some of their judgments because they're ruling based on the law and I don't like some of the laws. The radical leftists, they know exactly what their judges are going to do. And we know exactly what Susan Crawford would do. She will overturn Act 10. Governor Walker's signature achievement.

Save what? billions for Wisconsin taxpayers. She will redistrict. She'll be part of the group that will redistrict Derek Van Orton and Brian Styles districts. We may lose those wonderful members of Congress. We may lose a majority in the House and I do not want to be sitting in a third impeachment trial of a president. That's what we're facing. So, we cannot let that happen.

And again, the good news is we've got a person of integrity, Brad Shiml, working his tail off. He will be that kind of judge that will uphold the law and return the constitutional balance to Wisconsin and help save America. So that's all about again. So every every one of the 1. 7 million Wisconsinites that voted for Donald Trump, you must come out and vote. If you haven't already, vote, come out and vote on Tuesday.

Talk to every friend and family member and neighbor that you know, every email contact, every text contact. Get them all out to vote on Tuesday. There's no reason that we can't have 1. 3, four, five million votes and easily win this election. So, that's what you got to do. Thanks for coming here tonight.

Now, it's my pleasure to introduce a former congressman, another one of our high integrity people who've represented us in Congress and is now representing us in America as the Secretary of the Department of Transportation, Shawn Duffy. [Applause] Hey everybody. [Music] What an amazing crowd. Are we not blessed to have a senator like Ron Johnson? He's amazing. Also somewhere here, Congressman uh Tony Weed is in the house. Tony, where are you?

Right here. H Scott Walker as well in the house. Derek Van Orton, I know, is here too. Our great delegation from Wisconsin. We are blessed to have fighters like that in Washington DC. Now, quick question for you. Is Donald Trump making America great again? Yes, he is. Now, he does have a little bit of help from a guy by the name of Elon Musk. That's true. [Applause] Yeah.

And I would argue he probably has one of the best cabinets ever in recent history. Maybe we're helping as well. I think all of us thought our government and the waste in our government it was we thought it was bad but after DOA's work we can't believe how bad it is. This is horrible. So think Stacy Abrams raises a couple hundred dollars in her climate action fund and then Joe Biden gives her $2 billion for her climate fund.

Elon Musk found that there are 7 million social security uh uh folks on the roles that are o over 120 years old. Unbelievable. And I love what Doge has found at USID. 1. 5 million to advance DEI in Serbia. 2. 5 million for EVs in Vietnam, 32,000 for transgender comic books in Peru, 2 million sex changes and LGBTQ activism in Guatemala. Your hardearned tax money go to garbage like that.

And so I I never thought the left could get more crazy than they actually have become. But before this last election, they all wanted us to drive an EV. They wanted to force us into an EV. After the election, they're burning EVs. How crazy is that? And so I look at this and think, are you all sick of winning? No. If you're not sick of winning, let's not stop winning. And if you don't want to stop winning, this Tuesday is how you do it.

This election couldn't be more important. The country is watching what's going to happen in Wisconsin because you have a radical leftist judge who wants to get rid of school choice. She wants to get rid of voter ID. She wants to redraw congressional lines. She doesn't like parental rights. She wants to obstruct Donald Trump's agenda. She's soft on crime. She doesn't believe in bail. And she believes that criminals are more important than victims.

unacceptable in this great state. And we have Brad Shiml who believes that the law should treat everyone the same. Whether you're a Republican or a Democrat, he's a fair man who's going to impose the law in a way that treats everyone equally, which is what we want as conservatives. And so what you all can do what you all, by the way, are you all going to vote or have you voted? You guys all voted. Okay, you look like a pretty lively group.

So, I imagine all of you at least have five friends, maybe 10. Get your five or 10 friends to the ballot box on Tuesday. And if all of you do that, you get your friends to the ballot box because this is a low voter turnout election. Bring your friends. Bring your family. And if you all turn out on Tuesday with your friends, we are going to win in Wisconsin and send a message to the radical left. Don't mess with Trump. Don't mess with Doge.

Don't mess with Elon. And don't mess with Wisconsin. Let's get it done, everybody. God bless. taking care of business. [Music] Take good care of my business when I'm [Music] away taking care of business. [Music] We've been taking care of working over taking care of business. taking care of business. We be taking care of business.

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And I know she told her she loveear [Music] If you ever come on and cry babyelcome [Music] Ain't nobody ever going to love you. Take all your [Music] pain. And if you need me, you know that I'll be right. If you ever come on, [Music] cry like you always seem to do. When you're [Music] walking to your life when you only got do one thing. You only got to do one thing well to make it in this [Music] world. You got a woman.

All you ever got to do is be a good man one time to one woman and that'll be the end. I know you got more tears to share. Come on. Come on. Come on. Come on. Come on. [Music] Ladies and gentlemen, please take your seats. We will resume the town hall with Elon Musk shortly. Please prepare your question related to the election after Elon's opening remarks. Please line up behind the folks with the microphones in the aisle.

Thank you for taking your seats. We will begin shortly. Baby, baby, baby. [Music] I know my heart can stay with my love. It's understood. It's in the love [Music] it does it do. [Music] I'll still find somethingwhere. [Music] That was my love. My [Music] love does it good. Oh my love, my love, only my love holds the other key to me. Oh my [Music] love, my love, only my love does it to me. [Music] My love does it.

[Music] I never say goodbye to everywhere with my love. [Music] Does it good? Oh my love. Oh my love. Only my love. [Music] When I was a young boy now, so much older [Music] like there are things we can do babys [Music] feel [Music] like I can't change. Lord, help me. I can't [Music] change Lord. I can't change. Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome Elon Musk. [Music] Everybody, [Applause] thanks for coming. What do you think of my hat?

All right, I'm gonna I'm gonna sign the hat and I'm going to throw it out. [Applause] [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Applause] All right. All [Applause] right. All right. I love you guys, too. Uh so uh well thank you for coming out in support of this very important um uh Supreme Court uh race in Wisconsin.

Um it's it's actually something that I think it's it's it's one of those things that may seem like it's obviously important in in the state of Wisconsin, but I think it could actually be important uh for the country as well and and maybe for the world. [Applause] So, so the so the the House majority right now is razor thin. It's really just a few seats.

And if um if if the Supreme Court is able to redraw the districts, uh they will they will jerrymander the districts and deprive Wisconsin of two House seats on the Republican side. Yeah, exactly. The result of that could be that the house switches uh to a democratic house. Yes, indeed. Um and then they will try to stop all of the government reforms that we are we're doing and we're getting done for you, the American people.

[Applause] So, so the the reforms that that were getting done in DC, thanks to uh President Trump and his great team, um are are really profound. really the goal is very simple. It's to restore merit um and freedom. So that's that's what it comes down to. So America is the land of of freedom and opportunity. So we want to we want to restore ind individual freedoms, freedom of speech, just in general uh get the government off your back.

Um, so and and then make sure that you succeed in in the United States as a function of your hard work and your talent and nothing else. [Applause] So these are these are really noble and important principles and and also and I'll talk about more about this uh you know all night really as much as as long as you guys want to hear about it. Um but but as as you may as you may have seen with stuff that we've posted on the doge.

gov website and the Doge handle on the X platform, there is a tremendous amount of waste and fraud in the federal government. Like shocking really. It's it's insane. Yeah. It's really wild. So Like I mean it was inevitable that at least a few Soros operatives would be in the [Laughter] audience. Give my regards to George. Say hi to George for me. USA. USA. USA. USA. USA. Yep. [Applause] I mean it was inevitable. I was waiting for that one.

So I mean I mean yeah thank you. Thanks guys. Um yeah I mean I I mean isn't it isn't it shocking how much violence and hatred is coming from the left? I mean, isn't this supposed isn't it supposed to be the the party they claim to be, the party of empathy, and yet they're burning they're burning Teslas and shooting up dealerships and calling for the death of the president and me. I'm like, guys, you know, this is this is insane.

Like, they're to gone psycho. I mean, it's really like uh I totally understand if somebody doesn't want to buy a product. Yeah, it's up to you. It was free country, you know, but you don't have to burn it down. Okay. But much that's somebody else's car. Leave it alone. Thanks, [Applause] [Music] [Applause] guys. Yeah. So, man, that the arrangement level on the left is just like it blown my mind, frankly. I mean, I'm like, what is going on?

It's they've just lost it next level. I'm like, um, it's like, whoa. Um, and I I sort of wonder what's, you know, the legacy media is in part to blame for this and maybe primarily to blame for this because, you know, you know, it's really terrible. It's like if if they keep calling, you know, they they've called obviously called President Trump every name in the book.

You know, I think there's one article that that called the president worse than Hitler, Mussolini, and Stalin combined. I'm like, uh, actually, President Trump has not killed anyone. In fact, he's very good at stopping wars, not starting them. So, you know, we're really very different. Maybe we need to uh add some more history lessons back in schools because I don't know if people understand uh you know what uh the difference.

Do do they know what Hitler was leading on? It seems they they don't um I mean it's just indicative of the poor quality of of education pushed by the national department of education. So you know we that's why we we we want to restore freedom to the states to this let the states decide on the educational agenda and not have something pushed by a bunch of neo-Marxists in DC.

[Applause] So, I mean, it is astounding how much anti-American propaganda is pushed on on on kids today in schools. It's mind-blowing. It's like, what the hell's going on, you know? So anyway, but on a more positive note, uh we we we have this petition um you know to sort of against uh activist judges because judges should be in simply um interpreting the law and not making the law.

[Applause] Um so in appreciation for the support of uh people in in signing this petition against activist judges, we just want judges to be judges, you know, which is a reasonable thing to ask for. Um and um we're obviously obviously seeing like some crazy stuff in in in DC where uh you know it seems like the it's like any any federal judge can stop any action by the president the you know the of the United States. This is insane.

Like we we this this has got to stop it's got to stop at the federal level and at the state level. Um but let me first hand out two $1 million checks in appreciation. [Applause] Okay, so the first check goes to Nicholas Jacobs. [Applause] All right. [Applause] Now, I should say that the the reason, you know, the reason for the checks is that it's it's really just to get get attention.

It's it's like we we need to get attention and and it's somewhat inevitably um when I do this these things the u you know the the sort of uh it causes the legacy media to like kind of lose their minds and and and and then and then they'll they'll run it on every news channel and I'm like I I couldn't pay them to the it would cost like 10 times more or you know to get the kind of coverage that we get. So, all right. All right. Thank you so much.

[Applause] So, thank you. All right. All right. You can just I guess take it if you want. We'll get We'll get I think we'll get you a real one, too. So, And then the second one, second one is to Eatarina Diesel. Let's see. Hopefully here. So, well, and you know, like I said, this is just helpful for getting it getting attention and then like it's it's kind of fun to see the legacy media lose their minds over it, too. So, love you too. So, yeah.

So, see, hello. Thank you. Congratulations. All right. All right. [Applause] Congratulations. All right. So, we're also uh going to be announcing we are announcing now a a a program uh sort of a a get out the vote program.

Uh that's the web page should be going live uh I think around now uh which is at the America pack website or just go to the America pack uh X account and uh the single biggest challenge I think is actually just making people aware that there is this very important election um and there's both the the very important election for Judge Shimmel as well as the um deciding on on adding voter ID to the Wisconsin Wisconsin constitution.

ition which is very very important. So it's it's really it's quite shocking that I mean you can sort of tell where voter fraud is happening where they ban ID, you know, like why would you ban ID? Like in New York and California it's like illegal to show ID at an election. Well, why would I can't imagine why that would be the case.

So um so two really important things um is uh is really just sure ensured judicial integrity on Tuesday and and then the the voter ID thing and um you know it's April Fool's Day. So uh and it is it's it's like I think most people aren't aware like I said most people aren't aware that there is this important election. Um, most people don't even know that there's an election at all.

Um, and uh, or if they do, they aren't sure exactly when and where it is. Uh, and they aren't sure yet of or they don't realize just how important it is. Um, they think it it's well, it's just, you know, some kind of judicial thing that's not that important, but it actually what they're do what what's happening on Tuesday is a vote for uh, the the which party controls the US House of House of Representatives.

That is why it is so so significant and whichever party controls the house uh you know it it it to a significant degree controls the country which then steers the course of western civilization. So it's like I I feel like this is one of those things that that may not seem that it's going to affect the entire destiny of humanity but I think it will. No pressure. Yeah. So, um, it's it's a super it's a super big deal.

And and the the fact that I'm here in person, like I'm not phoning it in. I'm here in person. I'm And there. Yeah. So, and there there were quite a few death threats, I have to tell you. Uh that I was like my security team said said, "Well, it's it's actually gone down from yesterday to today. It went down from 18,000 to 17,000." So I'm like, "Oh, maybe it's getting better, you know." Um but you can see like how crazy some of these people are.

Um you know, look look at the the the two uh sort of people that tried to assassinate President Trump, you know, I mean that was uh and one, you know, they both almost succeeded. Um, so it's it's real. Like it's not like some imaginary thing.

Um, so anyway, so what what we're announcing is is kind of like a a block captain program where um somebody can sign up to knock on doors in their zip code and encourage people to to uh well make people aware that there is a vote um and then aware of how important the vote is. So, you can uh sign up to be a kind of a block captain for your zip code on the America Pack website uh right now. Yeah.

And if you do, it's it's like basically 20 bucks for just taking a photo with somebody. It's pretty straightforward. Just knock on doors in your neighborhood and and and give them either a digital or a paper, you know, picture of uh you know, Justice Bradimal. It can be a an approximation. It doesn't have to be exact. Um, but uh and and and they just have to say thumbs up and hold a picture of of Judge Shimmel and that's it and you get $20.

Sounds it's pretty easy. It's easy money. So, but we're the the whole point of it is just to make people aware of the election um and and say that there is an election. It's on Tuesday and it's super important. Please vote. So, [Applause] But I think without something like this um we're we actually are in in serious danger of losing the election. This is very important to put put in mind.

If you if you look at the betting market odds so if you look at sort of the poly market or kry like the betting markets it varies between 85% and 90% probability of loss for just a shimmel. That's the current situation. So, we got to we got to pull a rabbit out of the hat next level.

It's got we actually got to have a steady stream of rabbits out of the hat like it's an arc of rabbits flying through the air and and landing in a in a booning booth. Interesting picture. Uh Grock could probably make that picture. Um so, uh that's that's basically what's needed is is is we need to generate an anomaly in the matrix. Um, and because I think there's currently uh that there the Dems are 100,000 votes ahead.

But if actually if just if the people that voted for President Trump simply vote on Tuesday, uh we will win. That's actually all it takes. Just vote. Boom. Done. Victory. So, so we basically need to to drag net the state. It's like everybody's going to mobilize everywhere like crazy for the next 48 hours. Um, and I I think this will be important for the future of civilization. It's that significant. So, you don't hear me saying that very often.

It's it's a big deal. Um, so vote for Judge Supercharge Shiml. I call him Supercharge [Laughter] Shiml. So, [Applause] um, let's see. Um, so with that, I think we can um do some do Q&A if you guys would like to do some Q&A. Uh, and I'm happy to answer any questions. It can be, you know, about Doge or whatever you'd like to hear about.

Um because I think um if you ask questions that the public would be interested in hearing then uh you know those those snippets will go all over the place and it will be helpful to the the public um you know at at large and maybe even beyond beyond our country. So, let's see. Uh, yeah, go ahead. We can just start over there. Uh, as AI gets continues to get smarter, won't it uh inevitably uh see through its creators uh propaganda?

Yes, the question is, as AI gets smarter, will it see through its creators propaganda? I I hope so. Um I think you can sort of think of an AI as it is somewhat nurtured by uh its creator. Um so yeah say what what is the operating principle? What what is what is the what is the north star of the AI?

Um, you know, if it's a somewhat corporate AI, it could be like it's just trying to make corporations happy or it could be uh, you know, if it's particularly some of the AIs that that are trained in like the city of San Francisco, it's going to have kind of a San Francisco bias to it.

Um because you can think of like smart people as well as like you know there are big differences in in sort of beliefs um among smart people and so you can expect that there will be big differences in beliefs among AIs as well. Um with Grock our aspiration is a maximally truth-seeking AI um which is like you always want to try to get as close to the truth as possible even if the truth is unpopular. Um and that's that's our goal.

um which I think is a very important goal. Hey, nice shirt. Oh, thank you. First of all, path of exile for life. Um but more importantly, as we see the the whole world has turned to a fear-based mobilization effort, and we've seen that translate into violence and and the right's not immune to it because it can hit anybody's psychology. Sure. How do we beat that with optimism because that's going to be crucial to avoid mass eruption of conflict?

Yeah. I mean, it there does seem to be um you're right that the the the right is not immune from sort of hate and violence. It's not like nothing, but it it does seem weirdly heavily weighted towards the left. Um I mean that like I haven't seen anyone tearing off like a Biden Harris hat.

like we're just like you feel a bit sorry for them like oh maybe they're wrong there you know um but but but you see people tearing off mega hats and someone just you know I saw a video just as just just today where somebody was just on an escalator woman was on escalator wearing a mega hat and someone going the other direction tore the hat off her head and I'm like what that's that's rude you know um so um in fact I sort of find myself in a strange position because I I didn't think of myself as right.

I thought myself as centrist, but then the left went all the other other direction and now everyone's a Nazi, you know, before you know it. And I'm like, uh, wait a second. Uh, do you know what that means? Obviously not.

So um but yeah I mean I think you know I believe in peaceful discourse and that uh you know we make arguments uh verbal arguments and and the people decide which way they want to go but we you know we don't engage in sort of shouting people down or or violence or burning things or shooting things. Um that's what that's how democracy is supposed to work is peaceful discourse. So my question is about US aid.

Um has the Doge team found any evidence that any of the radical left Democrats like Maxine Waters, Adam Schiff, Chuck Schumer have received money directly from USA ID? And if so, will we be hearing about that evidence anytime soon? Yeah. So the the there is a massive amount of corruption um but but it it is cuitous.

So what happens is there's money that obviously it's your taxpayer money that that is then sent to various government organizations who then send it to to NOS's which which an NGO is a non-governmental organization but obviously if it's a government funded non-governmental organization it's just an organization it's just a government um and effectively there's a giant fraud loophole uh which is that the the government can send money to an NGO that is then no longer governed by the law laws of the United states.

So they'll they'll send the money uh overseas to one NGO. Then it'll go through a bunch of bunch of them and then I'm highly confident that a bunch of that money then comes back to the United States and lands in the pockets of the people you just mentioned. Um but it is a securitous route.

It's not like it it it doesn't go directly, but let's just say that there's uh a lot of strangely wealthy members of Congress um where I'm I just can't I I'm trying to connect the dots of how did they become rich while earning how do they get 20 million if they're earning 200,000 a year? You sounds that's how I Nobody can explain that.

So, so, so something's Yeah, we we're going to try to figure it out and um and and and certainly stop it from happening. Um, [Applause] so yeah, I mean, just in general, this the the whole NGO scam is is just crazy. Um, and uh yeah, it's it's it's blown my mind really. Um, so yeah, most of us here are aware of social media censorship and I know you're keenly aware of it. Thank you for turning around X. Awesome.

A as censorship picks up in financial institutions, what can we do about that? Uh, are you referring to um offering financial services by ex? No. Uh, sorry. being kicked off of financial or beliefs. Yeah. Yeah. Um well, certainly that that won't happen during the the Trump administration. Um I um hopefully that can be enshrined in law. Um which is part of the reason why we need a Republican Congress.

Um so you didn't see any Republicans kicking Democrats out of and debanking Democrats, but there were a lot of Republicans that were debanked, thousands, which is really outrageous.

Um, so so I think it does seem kind of one-sided, you know, this like trying to ruin people's lives and uh financially and and violent protests uh overwhelmingly is coming from the left these days, you know, it's like and whereas uh the right is polite, you know, uh and fair as far as I can tell. So yeah, go ahead. Um, thank you for being here.

Uh, uh, your comment kind of about The Matrix is kind of ironic because my husband and I watched first the the first Matrix and the sequel yesterday. Uh, my question is when so much of social media um nowadays, you know, whether it be X or YouTube or whatever is kind of um, curated to like your a a person's particular beliefs or even where we have protesters that um show up to town halls or or potentially are paid.

How do you does America kind of come together and it used to be where you could have a conversation and have discourse like you discussed, right? Um and still be friends even if you disagreed with kind of some of their statements. Um when you talk about knocking on doors like to different people's house like one kind of fear that I have is like even if you talk to somebody everybody has their own sets of beliefs and their own truths.

So I guess how do you get through that? Yeah. Well I think what we saw there for quite a while was that all of the legacy media and all of the new social media were in lock step together. Um, and they were all paring the same left-wing talking points. Um, and they were suppressing any disscent and any any so-called right-wing or frankly even centrist views.

Um, and with that, that's why I felt it was it was critical to acquire Twitter now X um, in order to enable that dialogue. So it's it's it's certainly a step in the right direction and I think we've seen now once uh X was willing to to break ranks and not censor uh Republicans um then you you saw others also start to move in that direction.

Um you know it looks like for example uh Facebook and Meta you know yeah um is they they have certainly Mark Zuckerberg has stated that they will be doing a sort of community notes um based on the community notes of the X platform um and and and as opposed to having sort of far-left censorship uh bureau the sort of you know the woke Stacey essentially reviewing things. Um, so that's a step in the right direction.

Um, you know, there's there's some maybe some hope for the CNN's the world. It's like with with with with Scott being on there, he's great, you know, he's like I but I hope I'm I mean I'm sort of hopeful that things will that are are moving in in the direction where uh different points of view are espoused on or or you know heard on legacy media and and social media. So I I I guess maybe I'm actually a little bit optimistic about the future.

Um and um you know on the Xplatform you know we we don't prioritize you know one side or the other. We try to be as fair as possible. Um and I will reply to you know prominent Democrats even if they sort of say terrible things about me. Um so you know it's like yeah we should have this discourse.

Um, and so I I kind of think at least on the media front things are going in a good direction, but on the but I but I am kind of perturbed by the the sort of how aggressive these protests are, you know, where it's it's like, you know, there are people at these protests calling for the death of the president and death of me and I don't know, probably death of others, you you know, that that's not that's the kind of thing that's not not cool, you know.

Um, at the risk of saying something outrageous, calling for murder is not cool, you know. So, thanks for coming, Elon. Um, I'm a teacher by trade. I have gone through the four-year bachelor degree to teach the nation's youth going forward. Um, on that I Yeah, I actually I'm kind of curious. Uh, what was that like? Like, uh, yeah. Um, I got an English degree, man.

At the end of the day, unless you want to hire me, that's about, you know, that's um Sure. So during teacher college, they give us a heat map and it says these are the cost per head on each student. Uh the south southeast is generally the worst, but they're also generally the lowest spent um per capita on each student.

Um, beyond just that correlation of the one text I got in a education class, I wonder with your investments in Khan Academy with the advancement of AI educational tools where specifically you can get feedback and these students can get feedback. Yeah, absolutely. Um, where do we see a 100 years from now with all Oh man, 100 years from now? How about 50? I hope it lasts 100 years. That'd be like jackpot.

um you know yeah exactly hopefully hopefully we were like on Mars you know um so that would be really cool um so I I do think AI can be incredibly helpful in teaching because you can you can um essentially set up each kid with like a personalized AI um and that that AI can then answer questions for each kid um and that actually can be very profound in learning um because obviously if if you got a classroom of say 25 30 kids.

It's you you can't like spend it's literally impossible to spend time with every kid um individually uh or at least you can spend a little bit of time but not obviously it's it's a 1 to 21 to30 ratio. So, but but what you can do is is you can set them up with the AI and then you can, you know, if things get stuck or or whatever if if you want to, you can you can essentially guide the orchestra that way.

And I think it could be a very powerful learning tool. Um, you know, I personally enjoyed my English classes in high school actually. Um, you know, they uh sometimes I wondered why am I reading Charles Dickens?

that uh you know there's some merit to reading Dickens and and and many of the I I actually think that we should have a a great cannon of of English literature uh that that that kids do at least you know uh some number of the significant works of in the English language.

[Applause] So I mean this yeah it's it seems like very obvious to me but uh yeah um and and another thing with regard to teaching is that I think teaching is a very important profession um if you look at the expenditures uh there's a very big rise in the number of administrators um but but not a very big rise in the number of teachers and so that's that's really the big factor which is we we should have more actual teachers um you know and and I I I believe in paying teachers well and and having a lot of a lot of teachers but we should say why do we have so many administrators or or non-teers um so administrative expense has gone ballistic but teaching expense is more or less flat doesn't make sense so first I would like to apologize to you on behalf

of America for the idiots you have to deal with for what you're doing for us to improve our country.

Second of all, my question is, what is your opinion on the Federal Reserve and do you have any intentions of doing anything with them and the [Laughter] Fed? Yeah. I don't know. I always wanted to say that, you know, uh but but I mean, I think there's like 20,000 people that work at the Fed seems pretty high.

Um it's like there's a lot of people that work at the Fed on it seems like why do we have so many people at this at at the Fed and what do they do and um you know sometimes I wonder which one would win you know the Federal for for interest rates the the federal the board of the Federal Reserve or a magic eightball and I'm like I think the magic eightball might win you know. So then I'm like well magic eightball is a lot cheaper.

Um, so you know it's like you shake it, it says check back again later. I'm like, [Laughter] okay, same [Laughter] thing. Um, but but I think we we we what really matters is that government spending it um is is not far in excess of government revenue. Um that's a fundamental issue that we have where that we have a de a deficit of $2 trillion and we have interest payments that now exceed uh the entire budget of the military.

Um in fact that that was a big wakeup call for me was when the the amount of money that we pay in national debt interest exceeded the defense department budget. I'm like defense department budget is very big um and interest is higher than that and and and climbing. That's a disaster. you know, so the the very simple straightforward goal of of the Doge team is to get rid of um waste and fraud. It's it's mostly waste.

It's it's or depending on how you I'd say it's probably 80% waste, 20% forward, something like that. Um but it's a trillion dollars, so that's still a lot. Um, and it's it's, you know, it's got to, you know, it's got to be. We got the another soros sleeper agent there. [Laughter] [Applause] USA, USA, USA, USA.

[Applause] So I mean to be to be clear the the very simple thing we're doing and we we post everything publicly on the Doge website which is uh is just to look at every expense and say is is this actually a good use of your taxpayer dollars. Um that's it. Um, it's not it's not super complicated.

And and the and the thing that's that's pretty wild, this is why like I say like, you know, I used to be a Democrat like and so like um and and if you listen to this the the speeches of uh Clinton and Gore in in the 90s when they they were going on about reducing waste and fraud, it literally you wouldn't be able to tell the difference if like who said it, Doge or Clinton Gore? You can't even tell the difference. sounds exactly the same.

It's wild. So, we're we're really just trying to restore common sense to government and say like, let's not waste your money. Um, and let's make sure it's spent well and and that's it. And in in trying to save a trillion dollars of expenditures, what we're saying is of the 7 trillion in in government spending, let's try to see let's see if we can make it 15% 15% more efficient. Um, and I'm confident that we can.

Um, but that's actually not a huge bar, by the way. [Applause] So, and and and when you see the when you see the crazy things that uh the government is spending money on, you can see a list of some of them. Um, you know, like I don't know if we should be spending money on transgender comic books in Peru. that doesn't seem like an ideal thing to spend your money on, you know. Um, why would we do that?

Um, if if somebody in Peru wants to do that of their own accord, that's fine, but it shouldn't be your money that does it. Um, so it's it just and you know, we shouldn't be paying rent on empty buildings.

Um, and uh, you know, if if if people if I do think there is a role for government, but but we just need to make we're just going to we're just going through and saying and doing what I would call like an an excellent and and and necessary um and reasonably trusted review of of organizations and and personnel. Um, so is this is this person doing a good job? Great. Um, is the role necessary? If so, that's good.

Um, and are they reasonably trusted, meaning they're not a psycho? Um, like we're not talking about like political affiliation, just that they're not crazy. Um, so you know, uh, what's wrong with that? I'm like, sounds normal to me. So, that's it.

Um now in in this process one of the things that we've discovered which is I think um on the fraud side which is a really big deal um is that uh the Democrat administration Biden administration has basically t taken every arm of the of the US government and bent it towards creating a financial incentive for illegal immigrants to come to the United states. Um, now this is every part of the government.

So like social security, Medicaid, uh, unemployment insurance, disability, uh, even the IRS. Um, so you can like fill out a fake tax return and say you you need a a tax maybe I shouldn't tell people this, but it'll actually work. I mean, mostly uh, there's some chance you'll get caught, but you can actually fill out a fake tax return. You can you can just get a tax refund even though if you didn't pay taxes.

So, we're trying to stop all these things to say like, okay, let's stop the waste and fraud and and we also need to turn off the massive financial incentive uh for illegals to come to the United States and and stay in the United States.

And this is really the thing that is causing the Democrats to lose their mind, you know, because they're they're actually spending at this point uh tens of billions to attract and retain illegals in the United States. It's really on that scale. It's a gigantic number and the goal uh is is to turn all the swing states blue incl that means Wisconsin. So that's the goal.

Um, so with the asylum program, uh, if they they can be get a green card within a year and then they can get, uh, citizenship as as quickly as four years after getting a green card because the first year of being asylum being asylum counts for the for the 5-year uh, citizenship waiting period. So this is this is a very big deal.

Um, so, uh, a number of friends of mine have actually, uh, joined the government and in order to help with this process. Um, and I'd like to welcome my friend Antonio Gracias to the to the stage. I think so. Does it work? I can give you mine. Does it work? radiation belt. Uh, it'll be okay. Uh, I mean, Buzz Aldrin's still alive and he's he went past the belts. Work. Is this working? Yeah, it's not. Yeah, there you go.

Um, so Antonio, can you tell us what what you uh Antonio is helping out uh with the social security? So, just trying to review social security where you may have heard that we found 20 million dead people uh marked as alive in the social security database. This is too so crazy. And then you'll notice there's a strange trend here. Um where uh how many social security numbers were issued. Uh it it's do you want to Yeah.

So let me um let me tell you what happened here. We we started at the top of the system. You want to talk about a lot of We started at the top of the system mapping the whole system of social security to understand where all the fraud was. And there's a lot of great people there that showed us um in really a lot of waste. And so that came up with a big list of stuff they're working on. You've heard some of that already.

But this is what jumped out at us. Um when we saw these numbers, we're like, what is this? In 21, you see 270,000 uh people goes all the way to 2. 1 million in 24. These are nonitizens that are getting social security numbers. Yeah. This this is a mind-blowing chart. Yeah. Just this this literally blew us away. Like we went there to find fraud and we found this by accident. And this isn't political, by the way. My parents are immigrants.

Uh, yeah, this country's been great to us. My brother and sister are all born in Spain. I'm pro-le immigration. This is not This is not political. This is not political. This is about America and the future of America. And there are a lot of good people in the system that pointed us in this direction. I want to I want to honor them right now that work in the government today who took risks to show us these numbers and tell us what's going on.

So, I want to stop for a minute. I want to tell I want to honor those people today. Very good people. Very good people. I have been from DC to social security offices to the border to track this down. And very good people have helped us along the way. I want to thank them. Yeah. This number what this is is when you come in the country, if you're illegal, uh there's a couple ways to come in.

You can come in through a port of entry and you can tell them you're afraid and you'll get they'll give you an asylum asylum case. You'll get an interview. then you get in. That's one way to do it. Another way to do it is to just go to the border. Literally, this happened. I talked to Border Patrol myself. Elon was there, too. Um I went to Laredo uh and I went to Brownsville. Elon went to Eagle Pass.

Um you walk up to Border Patrol officer and you tell them you want to come in. They have a couple of choices. They could charge you with a misdemeanor or a felony under 1325, or they can make it an administrative offense, like a parking ticket. Basically, they were told to do that.

make an administrative offense under the last administration and then you go walk across the border, they uh do what's called a release from your own recgnizance and they give you an NTA, a notice to appear, which to appear at a judge. The wait times on judges are like average six years. Look at Grock, you'll see it on immigration judges. There's only 700 of them. This is 5. 5 million people. Okay? So, what happens then?

Once you're in the country and you got asylum through one of these pathways and we've mapped the whole thing out, uh you can apply for a work document. You file a 765. It's the work form. You get this form called the 766. That's the authorization. And then Social Security Administration automatically send you in the mail your social security number. No interview, no ID. This is worth like just reiterating it.

It it's not that it's not people sometimes think that under the Biden administration that that he was simply asleep at the switch. He wasn't asleep. They were asleep at the switch.

It it it was a massive large-scale program to import as many illegals as possible ultimately to change the entire voting map of the United States and disenfranchise the the American people and make it a permanent deep blue one party state from which there would be no escape. Look, if I hadn't seen this myself, I'm not sure believed it. I went through it myself and mapped it and Elon is right. This is true.

The defaults in the system from social security to all of the benefit programs have been set to max inclusion, max pay for these people and minimum collection. That's what's happening. We found 1. 3 million of them already on Medicaid as an example. We've gone through on every benefit program we went through, we found groups from this particular group of people, this 5. 5 million people in those benefit programs.

And then what was really really disturbing us was why. We're asking ourselves why. And so we actually just took a sample and looked at voter registration records and we found people here registered to vote in this population. Yes. And who did vote? And and we found some by sampling that actually did vote. And we have referred them to prosecution at the Homeland Security Investigation Service. Yeah. Already. Already.

That has already happened right now. Yeah. And the truly disturbing thing though, I just want you to know this. A truly disturbing thing to me and the darkest thing about this to me, uh, the voter fraud is terrible, but the human tragedy this created is extraordinary. Because what you don't understand, and people don't know, and Americans need to know, that's why I'm here, is that human traffickers made 13 to 15 billion dollars off of this. Okay?

That's the money that's going around the world moving people around the world to our borders because of these incentives. How does it work? What happens? Hey, if you're in Africa and you're in Central America, you got to walk up through Mexico, through America. Who do you pay? You pay the narcos. You pay the traffickers, right? And we found, we were told by ICE, it's between 20,000 and 500 bucks, depends.

They pick you up to walk across all those countries and get all the way up to the border. Where's that money goes? It goes to the cartels. It goes to human traffickers, right? There are 30,000 children that have not appeared on the notice to appear already. ICE knows this. 30,000 children, 270,000 children didn't even get notices to appear.

ICE told us that kids are being trafficked back and forth across the border to complete families to make this easier. This is a human tragedy. It's not just the money, it's the people and the kids. And how many of these people died on the way up here that didn't make it in? What happened to them? We created this system here that created a descent for people to come and be taken advantage of by these traffickers.

And how do you think they get paid? What? You're an African Central America. You got $20,000 or $10,000 or $5,000 to pay these traffickers. No, you don't. What happens? You come in, then you owe them the money. It's your indentured servant. If you don't pay them, what happens? What do they do? They kill your mother. They kill your brother. take care of your family. What happens next? That's what we discovered.

And I have to tell you, it was it's tragic to me. The tragedy, the human tragedy this created is extraordinary. That's the real problem. This is America. We don't do this here in America. Yeah. We don't do this here in America. People come here legally, and that's great. Elon came here legally. My parents came here legally. That's the way to do it. This is this is outrageous. [Applause] Yeah, it's it's it's pretty wild.

I mean, you can see u because there's still actually a lot of people out there, especially in the sort of center third of the country that that somehow think this is made up by the right or it's like some fiction. It's not that it's somehow not true. But it is it is in it is is absolutely true.

Um, and you can see that if if you if you you know look at things like the state of New York, which tried to make it legal for for for illegal immigrants to vote in the state of New York that was only shot down by the New York Supreme Court a few weeks ago. Um, and and California has made it um health care available to all illegals in the state. Um, and they initially claimed that it would only cost three billion. is now 9 billion and climbing.

Um, so it's it's really if if you create a massive financial incentive for people to come to the United States illegally, then that's what they will do. It's it's a very sort of it would be stranger it'd be odd if that didn't happen.

So the the really the thing that is actually has the Democrats losing their mind by far um the real reason for these attacks and and sort of the burning of the cars and everything is that we're going to turn off the payments to illegals [Applause] because Yeah. I mean because that's not the deal. You know this there it's you know it's not it's not it's simply not right.

Um and uh you know if if you look at that thing with the Roosevelt Hotel and like you know the luxury hotels in New York where the Federal Emergency Management Agency funds were being used to to house uh illegals in luxury hotels in New York that the average American can't afford. Um, and they were giving a welcome package and $10,000 debit cards and everything else. Like, it's it's super real.

I mean, it's it's like uh it's it's it's in my I think it's the the the biggest uh voter fraud thing in history by far. Um and and more of a if if left unchecked, it would have succeeded. Um, as Antonio mentioned, the the time frame for going from asylum to citizen is roughly five years. Yeah.

U, and so all of the people that came in on that chart that you saw, uh, if if the if the machine behind the Camala puppet had won, um, then, you know, they change out the puppet, but it's the same machine. um then they would have actually legalized uh all those people and there would be no swing states and they added more. Remember it was doubling every year. Yes, it went from 1 million. It was going ballistic. Going ballistic.

And it it is it is just these people are just ending the the the uh benefit programs now by the way. We're seeing the ramp happen too. And these are just the ones that are in the system. This doesn't count the other, you know, 7 and a half 8 million that ICE thinks are out there. We don't know if they have numbers. The number is totally uncontrolled. The voter ID requirement in the state is super important because of this. Yes.

Because the social security number, it's not supposed to be a federal ID number, but it basically is. That's how you access all the benefits. This is why we need voter ID because this thing is not secure. You could walk into a social security office today as an adult in America and get a social a social security number uh enumerated with simply a um answering six or seven simple questions and showing some some forms of ID that are not federal ID.

Well, you can just actually make it up. You basically you can you can show basically like uh like a fake utility bill or you know a show a medical bill and a school ID. Yeah. Medical bill and school ID and you can get a social security number. Yes. Um and then from there you get on the voter roles and then um basically Dem operatives will form the vote. Yes.

Um, so, uh, you know, the problem with this obviously is that if you turn the swing states, uh, blue, then there are no swing states, and then we're in a permanent one one party system. And as soon as they win that, they'll have the House, the Senate, the Presidency, they'll pack the Supreme Court. Then they'll they'll double down on on the illegals just like California. So like we've we've already seen this happen in California.

California is supermajority dem. So, uh, but at least California is held back by the fact that people can move out of state. Um, once you can no longer leave America, they will be there'll be far worse than California. So, the gravity of the situation is severe. Help us clean up Wisconsin. Yes. Yes. Absolutely. [Applause] So, I mean, it's it's really simple stuff.

Uh, just, you know, Having uh you know photo ID to vote is like you can't like buy something at the liquor store but uh voting is a lot is more important uh than you know buying a beer. So you're going to need real ID an airplane. Yeah. You can't fly anywhere. Yeah. And and and like the same people who said who are saying that there should be no voter ID at at voting stations uh demanded vaci vaccine ID from everyone. Yeah.

I'm like that's weird, you know. So, so it's it's it's really about just restoring integrity to the voting system. Um, which really should not be a right or left cause, but a cause for all. Um, is do do we not all want integrity in the voting system? Of course we do. Yes. Of course. Yes. So, [Applause] so, so, well, you're welcome to hang out and see maybe there's some questions people. Let's see. We'll we'll go. Hi, Elon.

Um, I also am a teacher. I was a teacher in Colorado for eight years, high school Spanish. Um, but I moved I moved here last year and got to vote in Wisconsin where my vote actually mattered and I'm so glad that was amazing that we got Trump elected. Yeah. Um, and I was listening to I believe it was Patrick Bet David.

He called this perfectly where he said when Elon or when when Trump gets elected, he's going to go from enemy number one to Elon's going to be number number one. And for the reason, I mean, he only has a couple years left. And we've all seen the the left go after you and make you number one enemy. And just walking in here, we heard Nazis suck. There's all this horrible thing.

And just on a on a serious note, I just want to let you know, my wife and I pray for you at night. Thank you. For your safety, guys. Thank you. I I I got I got to watch my hand gestures these days, you know, but uh I think this one's safe, you know. Um, you know, it's like can't wave to the crowd. You never know what'll happen. And I've been a fan of yours for like a decade.

And I've been a walking Tesla ad to anybody who talks to me, even though I never had a Tesla until I came to Wisconsin, too. And it's 10 years old, but it's the best Model S I've ever had. Thank you. It's incredible. Thank you. But I I just wanted to um take to ask you if it would be okay. I brought my dad with me. Um he's a pastor and I just thought if it's okay with you, I would love for him to say a prayer for you as well for your protection.

Thank you. Uh Elon, well, thank you so much for everything you've done for our country. We we do love you very much. Thank you. And uh and as a pastor, but just as a person, right? And even if I wasn't a Christian, and I know not everyone here is a Christian, but I think there's quite a few of you here and uh who who are either way, we we love all all people. It's that's not the issue. The issue is is fairness.

what you're talking about the issue being uh uh just and the justice being a weapon instead of uh lawfare instead of actually just and and all this corruption you're talking about. And that's a bad spirit if you want to say it that way, putting it nicely. It's it's something evil that has come against our country, our morals, our families, etc. and then you and the president and others getting attacked with this outrage and this hate.

So if you would allow me to pray. Thank you. You would all who want to please join me bow our heads and pray. Gracious heavenly father, we are thankful for our country. We are thankful that God does bless America and that God is the source of all goodness, love, and provision. And that you, Lord God, have provided a great nation with a great history. And although we've gone through many rough times, you're still very present and active with us.

Thank you for protecting President Trump from that fatal attack. And we ask that you envelop and protect all of those who are fighting for justice, for freedom, for order, for dignity, and to re reward people according to merit.

and especially put your hedge of protection around Elon Musk, around his children, around his whole entire family and all of his team members that all would do good and just by our country and freedom truly and justice would reign once again. We ask this in the name of the blessed savior Jesus Christ who we remember during this time of year who suffered and died for our sins. May you wash away all that is wrong with our country and start with us.

We ask this in Jesus name. Amen. Amen. Thank you. Thank you very much. Thank you. [Applause] to you. You can hang out if you want. Well, that was that was beautiful. That was beautiful. It's uh I think we're going to need divine protection, frankly. Yeah. Hey, Elon, I'd like to start off by thanking you for all that you've done for our country and the world as a greater whole. And I mean that from the bottom of my heart as well.

Um I have a question for you. Um, as you go about your decision making at Doge, how are you able to keep your moral northstar and not set precedents when it comes to overstepping democratic processes simply because the end justifies the means and have outcomes similar to the last election with Democratic presidential candidate being appointed without due process that just further polarizes the country. True. Also on a side note, one more thing.

Do you see a place in the long term for decentralized technology in society and government? Yeah, I mean to answer the second question first, um I think generally if it's good to have decentralized systems, uh because the more centralized something is um the more the more power that is in any one single entity, the more corruption you're likely to have. So decentralization I think is good to minimize corruption.

Um then with respect to Doge u I mean as I said it's it's we're trying to be as literal as possible. It just it's department of government efficiency and it's just literally going through and saying okay this money was spent is it money that most Americans would agree is sensible uh or is it not? Um and uh you know if it doesn't seem sensible then we you know um say well we shouldn't spend that money anymore.

We should and we should we should stop it. So and then we post the the we try to be as transparent as possible. So all the Doge actions are posted on the doge. gov website and on the Doge handle on X. So people disagree with something they we can say well which which part do you disagree with?

Um and you when when I get these sort of attacks of like oh it's unconstitutional I mean like well which expenditure is unconstitutional that we've stopped um because and then they they don't know actually because they don't they haven't actually looked at anything.

So um now obviously a lot of this can be reversed with a new administration um but at least for some period of time we're going to make sure that your taxpayer money is spent at least 15% better. It's it's it's it's not like a you know I think it's a reasonable goal. It's a rational goal. It's a sensible goal.

Um and um and the net result I should say if if if we have the combination of a a trillion dollar increase in the an economic output and a trillion dollar decrease in the in the budget deficit, then the outcome should be that there is no inflation or very little inflation uh from one year to the next. So at the end of next year, you the prices will be at the grocery store will be very similar to what they are right now.

Um which means that you know standard of living will will will actually probably be higher, a little bit higher. Um you know you whereas we've had rampant inflation to date which and inflation is really just a a a pernicious tax that has been used by governments throughout history. Um and it's it's very tempting for governments to use inflation as a as a tax because it's indirect.

Um people see the prices rising at the grocery store or at you know for goods and services or for houses and they they tend to like blame the store but it's it's not the store it's the government. Um the government has reduced the value of money and as a result prices rise.

Um so by you know changing by by reducing waste and fraud um will essentially make the economy more efficient uh and will shift uh people resources from the government to the private sector. Um and that will result in an increase in the output of goods and services and and so the the average standard of living will therefore rise. So like they're trying to make economics sound very complicated, but it's it's really not that complicated.

Um standard the standard of living increases when the the when the output of goods average output of goods and services increases per person. There's basically more stuff. Therefore, you have more stuff to divide across the people. Um that's it.

And you can you can run this sort of thought experiment and say like if there was a hundred people on an island and you'd say well how many people do you want farming, fishing, making stuff um you know versus you know doing regulations. You would say like you wouldn't want like 20 people doing regulations, you know, you'd be like that's too many. Um well then maybe you'd want one or two. I don't know. Maybe none. Ideally zero.

I I mean I'm I'm all for small government by the way. I'm not I think the really Yeah. Um you know when the United States was when the United States was formed there were only um you know you had the secretary of state the secretary of war which I think is a more accurate name than defense um uh and you know but it was secretary of war war for a long time. Um, and you had Secretary of the Treasury and you had the attorney general. That was it.

And, um, if it were entirely up to me, I'd be like, let's let's make it like that again. Yeah. Howdy, gentlemen. Uh, got a quick question regarding government and transparency. Do you think Dogecoin may ever be used or the Dogecoin blockchain to be used for maximum transparency? Well, the names are similar, but they're doing two very different things.

Um, so in fact, I was going to call it like the government efficiency commission, but that's a super boring name. Um, and then the internet said, "No, it needs to be called the Department of Government Efficiency." I was like, "Well, internet, that that's the internet is right." Um so so we changed the name from government efficiency commission to department of government efficiency.

Um but there are no plans for the government to use Dogecoin or or anything as far as I know. Um so that that they happen to be similar names but but really it's just we're just literally trying to make the government 15% more efficient. It's kind of like like most of the work that's that's being done is it's kind of like homework. It's not like uh it's it's just it's just work, you know? It it frankly it's like washing the dishes.

It's it's not like you know it's it's a lot of it's not super fun work. It's just you know going through and looking at every expense and saying why you know why does this department have like 10 times more software licenses than people? That doesn't make sense. Um you know why why is this why is the government spending $10 million a year on Politico subscriptions?

that doesn't make sense, you know, like there's just one thing after another like that. It's like things that are just uh kind of kind of boring. It's it's like a ton of boring stuff. Like you do hear about like the the the sort of weird stuff that makes the headlines, but most of it most of the costs that are being cut are just very basic boring things.

It it's it's a it's it's like homework at scale is what I'd call you the department of government efficiency. Um can I can I add some I think this question about transparency. I'm really selling it here. Yeah. Yeah. No, no, no. I um I I I would say the principles that Elana set out for Doge are they begin with truth. Truth. Find the truth. Number one, find the truth. Why?

Because the government government's gotten so big that actually the people don't even know what's there. They don't know the source of truth. So these licenses, it's not like people bought these licenses because they're bad people and they wanted to pay Microsoft. They just kept buying licenses because Microsoft kept selling from them. I mean, it's just it's that strange. And we don't want to pick on Microsoft.

It's like every every software company, by the way, any software company pick company X. They they didn't they bought these licenses because they just uh thought they should buy more licenses. More people coming in and there's no one there. People aren't coming back to the office, right? They It's just finding truth. The number one principle is truth. And then transparency is number two, I think, on the list, right?

So find the truth, make it public, make it transparent. And number three is, man, do it fast. Make it efficient and be urgent. Yeah, those those are the principles that Elon's put into Doge. Yeah, it's it's worth pointing out like like it's it's actually difficult to you have to recalibrate uh how dumb things can be because it's the government, you know, frankly, it's like dumber than you think it could possibly be.

Um so you know like for example there were we found there were a whole bunch of what I call uh ghost payments going out um where the the government contracting officer had retired or or changed jobs or were dead or or I don't know they were not around anymore and they forgot to turn off the payment stream to some company and it's it's like leaving the the money faucet on and you you know leave the house you know and it's just the money faucet keeps going and it's a pretty rare organization that will complain about receiving money.

Um so organizations so then you're like is that waste of fraud? I mean the government didn't send them the money but they didn't deserve it. Um so then well okay we but we should turn off the money spigot if they if the contract is over you know type of thing.

Um so one of the things that um we we made a recommendation to uh the treasury uh that uh that the payment classification codes uh and and the explanation for the payment be mandatory fields. Um so so that just and have a name attached. So we could just ask the person who approved the payment is this payment a good a good payment? Does this make sense?

this is the kind of thing that is that is normal in you know for individuals and and for companies. Um but uh that was not the case. Uh so the reason why the the the government could not pass an audit was because the information did not exist that it that would be required to pass an audit like it was literally impossible um because you just had all these blank checks going out with no explanation and no payment code.

So how you supposed to do an audit? It's literally impossible. So that's what I mean by like it's very basic stuff like we just want the congressional appropriation payment code to be mandatory and a very short explanation. We're not even going to judge what the explanation is, but that there'll be any explanation at all and a name attached is was a like revolutionary.

Um and and my guess is this will probably save a hundred billion dollars a year like a lot, you know. So maybe I could tell a little story from Social Security Administration that people might like to hear too which is um at at Social Security Administration it they have passed their audit actually they've got I don't know about 100 material deficiencies but they passed their audit.

Uh when we looked at the balance sheet um we found that $800 million had fallen off the balance sheet last year. $800 million. What do you mean it fell off the balance sheet? It's exactly the question I asked Elon. Thank you. Where did it fall to? Exactly. Where did it fall to? So I I I asked the auditors to come in. It's like a comedy sketch, you know, comedy routine here. Where did it go? Exactly. But wait, where did it go? Exactly.

So here's what happened. I I I brought I asked the auditors to come in. I'm I won't give the name of the auditors. Come on in. And I asked the audit partner myself. Where did it go? What is fell off the balance sheet? Is that a gap term or non-GAAP term? I've never heard that. What does it mean?

Well, the payment plans because um under the last administration uh you could pay if you owed if you got overpaid on social security like if you If you were on um if you were getting SSI or a disability and they paid you too much money, you got a job and didn't tell them they paid you too much money, they dropped that payment plan to $10 a month max. So the payment plans went out past the system date.

So if I remember correctly, it was 2047 payment plans out past system date. When it went past the system date, literally it fell off the system. Uh okay, it disappeared and the uh officers were supposed to people the technicians were supposed to put notes in the um in the system that this was going to be collected. The notes were so bad the auditors concluded this could not be collected and we literally lost $800 million gone.

And I said to the auditor, "How could that possibly be?" And she said, "Well, you know, it's not really material. It's a $ 1. 5 trillion program." I said, "Well, it's material if it's your money. Is it in the computer? It's not in the computer. It fell off the computer. It's in the computer. The computer that's in the computer. Disappeared. $800 million just disappeared." I mean, it's crazy.

So, there's like it's one like nutty thing after another like that. Um, yeah. It's uh yeah, I mean it's crazy. Anyway, we're just we're just trying to basically fix the computers so that we know what the heck's going on. Um yeah, it's it's like please and and and you know, like I said, being fully trans we bring fully transparent with the American people so you know exactly what's going on.

Um and uh just just making sure that uh you know, yeah, anyway, money is not wasteful or fraudulent. Um, you know, one interesting statistic was that 40% of the of the calls into social security were fraudulent, like meaning that that that it was someone trying to get uh a a social security payment that was going to a senior to to go to a instead to go to a fraud ring. So, that was almost half of the phone calls were fraudulent.

Probably the other half were people asking what happened to my social security. This is true actually. Like where did my what? This is bananas. Yeah. And I mean we found this actually the people there at S Street knew this was going on.

Um and they had been complaining about it for a long time and no one fixed it because and these were these were uh mostly criminal rings outside the country um in other other places in the world that are are jamming up the phone systems calling in using just these simple security questions because you can actually this was how crazy it was.

You could change your direct deposit information at social security by simply answering six questions on the phone like your mother's maiden name, your date of birth, etc. Like stuff you can find on the internet, easily found on the dark web. That's why it was so easy. It was a huge, huge exploitation, super open door. I mean, the bank vault was open and the criminals ran right in and took the money and they took it away from our seniors. Right.

So what happened is if like my dad's 84, he'd go get it thought checked in the bank account wasn't there. Then he's got to go whole through a whole process to get it the money back in the government which takes a long time. It's the government, right? So we we put in a very simple 2FA system. All this nonsense you've seen in the media about we turned off the phone lines but not true.

All all we did all they did actually we we recommended to social security that they put in uh a very simple 2FA system and they will two two factor authentication two factoration. They same kind of thing to the banks like pretty simple. you have a bank account, you do this. And you know what? They did it. They said, "Yeah, you're right. We should do that." They went and did it. Good for them. They did it. No one had the will to do it.

They did it. And they're going to keep increasing security. They've got we've gave them we've given them a lot more recommendations and they're on the road to increase security to stop all this nonsense so our our seniors and our our people that are disabled don't get stolen from. Yeah, this is really worth emphasizing. Um because like the you know the radical left are saying that like somehow we're stealing social security.

Like first of all like you know I I don't need the money. Okay. Um in in fact uh it's costing me a lot to be in this job. Uh you know you had like Tim Walls uh dancing on stage showing a a chart of Tesla stock. Uh which is really uh awful thing for him to do. um you know because what they're trying to do is put massive pressure on on um me and and Tesla I guess to to you know I don't know stop stop doing this.

Um but uh you know it's you know my my Tesla stock and the stock of everyone who holds Tesla's gone went roughly in half. I mean it's a big deal. So not not only is am I not getting any any I'm not getting paid definitely not stealing money and would never get away with it. Um, but the value of my Tesla stock is in half. So, this is a very expensive job is what I'm saying. Um, and but but I think it's it's it's [Applause] welcome. Thank you.

Thank you. Thank you. [Applause] Thank you very much guys. Um so but long term I think Tesla stock's going to do fine. Uh so uh you know maybe it's a buying opportunity. Um so um but but the the actual thing we're doing is is making sure that um people do get their social security and that it doesn't get stolen. Um so 100%. Yeah. Yeah. Sorry. Go ahead. Hi Elon. I got a question for you about Dodge. Great shirt.

Um, everybody in this room has got a bunch of money sitting in a bunch of little boxes in a bunch of different states and it turned into crickets when you brought it up online that you were going to go check our gold and I'm worried about the Democrats and Joe Biden's last administration with the money not being there. Did you get blocked or are you still able to go check that? Sir, I'm not sure I understand exactly what you're referring to.

Fort Knox. Oh, Fort Knox. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Right. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Um, well, that's up to the president, of course. Uh, but I think it would be I I think it would be awesome to live stream Fort Knox, you know. I mean, that would be really fun. And and after all, it it it is actually the gold of the American people. So, the American people should, it seems to me, have a right to see their gold. You know, hopefully it looks really cool.

um you know open the doors like is there like is that really gold? Let's check um you know so maybe it'll be really really interesting. Uh I'm I'm all for it. The president said he's he's interested in doing it. So hopefully that happens. So all right, good evening Mr. Musk. How are you? Good. How's it going? Good. Good. My name is Veto Gabriel. Um I'm 18 years old. This is my first election that I'll be voting in. So, great. Very exciting.

Oh, actually, uh that that that reminds me. So, it it is actually possible uh to both register to vote on Tuesday. Um if someone has not registered to vote, they can register to vote in Wisconsin and they can vote same day. So, even if somebody's not a registered voter, you can do it everything on on Tuesday. Uh so, bit of backstory.

Uh when I was younger, eight years old to be exact, my father put me to work in my family's restaurant and um it led me to want to start my own business and to be successful just like you. And in my opinion, you're one of the most successful businessmen to ever live. And so what advice would you give to young entrepreneurs who want to start their own uh businesses and give back to this great country? Well, sure.

Um well it is it is very very hard to start a business and have it succeed. Um you know it's it is true that most businesses that start do not succeed. Um, so I mean I I guess I'd really just say, you know, if if there's a product or service that you think uh is really needed, um, then you you go out and you you you make that product or you produce that service, offer that service. Um, and uh, and try to be as useful as possible really.

Um, you know, there's it's it's like whether you know it's it's a great restaurant or store or a technology company or whatever the case may be. Um, it's really just like are you doing things that are useful to your fellow human beings. Um, and you know, if if you are, then I think the company will be successful. Um, so that's that's that's really what it comes down to is is just being being useful. Like people ask me like what's the top advice?

I'm like try to be useful. It's actually very difficult uh to be useful. Um you know um but you know I have a lot of admiration for anyone who just does an honest day's work um you know making products or or producing services for their fellow human beings. Um that's what a company is you know that's that's it. So um but but it it is hard.

I mean I mean to totally frankly like I I generally say if if somebody needs encouragement uh to start a company I would recommend not and started not starting a company. Um it's it's it's uh it's very difficult like you know if you look at say the automotive industry the only two um American car companies that have not gone bankrupt uh are Tesla and Ford. So it's a it's a it's a big cemetery is what I'm saying.

So that's a tough one you know very very tough industry. Um and there were really no like commercial rocket companies that were successful before SpaceX. um it's it's generally very difficult to make the value of the output exceed the cost of the input. And that's that's really what defines a successful business. Um and and and profit is really the difference between the value of the output and the cost of the input.

Um that that's what profit is. Um so but it's it's like shockingly hard to make the output more valuable than the input. That's what I found. Um, yeah. So, all right. Hi, Elon. Thank you so much for being here. Um, would you agree with me that the economic illiteracy in this country is staggering? That people don't understand how close we are. I would say that America to going over the fiscal cliff. Yeah. Right. Um, yes.

Most people actually I think most people well I think a lot of people don't know what a national debt is. Um like how did this national debt come about and and how come there's all this money that somehow we owed but we didn't sign up to be to owing this money. Um but there's you know over $30 trillion of of national debt and that that doesn't count uh future obligations.

Uh so and and that that's just doesn't count state and state and local debt. So it's it's a lot of basically it's a lot of money that the government has signed everyone in America up for. Um and um yeah so so there's if we if we don't do something about it then eventually there won't be any any money for anything. We'll just be paying interest. Um you know a company so I should say a country is much like a person. It's just it's just bigger.

A a country is a collection of people. Um but just like a person can go bankrupt, a c a c a country collectively can also go de facto bankrupt. Um essentially by diluting the currency to where it's worthless. Um and that's that's where we're headed unless uh we uh are you know take immediate and dramatic action with respect to government spending. Um that's we're we're in deep trouble basically. You've seen this in places like Venezuela.

Yeah, exactly. Um, so see in a lot of countries where where it's um think things have gone to hell in a hand basket and uh it's like we just need to not do that, you know. Um, so if you know if the ship of America sinks, we all sink with it. You know, this is something that I try to tell people in in the sort of commercial sector that like you're you're not going to your company's not going to make it if the ship of America sinks.

So, we all got to like, you know, work together here to make sure it does not. Yeah. [Applause] Antonio, feel free to add liver as you wish, but I This is the only place left to go. That's great. Right. Exactly. Like, I don't think we can run off to some other country and be okay. It's America, you know. I I will die in America. I'm not going anywhere. I I will, too. Yeah. I mean, I might go to Mars, but that'll be part of [Laughter] America.

Yeah. [Applause] Hi, Elon. Thank you so much for taking the time out of your busy schedule to be here today with us um in Green Bay, Wisconsin. Yeah. Um, I just want to say that DOA's findings demonstrate to the American people that the government clearly does not care about our hard-earned tax dollars. I have I'm only 26.

Um, but I can imagine it's frustrating for people who have worked their entire lives to see their tax dollars going to fraud, waste, and abuse. And you alone have uh contributed so much money to our government. Yes. Via taxes. So, thank you. You're welcome. But I'm sorry that your money is not being spent very well.

Um I you've clearly shown your leadership and team is capable of transforming our government into something better than what we see today. Um, I just want to say um um I'm sure I'm not the only one who's wondering, but we know that Doge has found quite a bit of money and we would like to see some of that returned to the American people. Do you have any information on when Doge checks would be written or sent out? Sure.

Well, I I guess we we need to be successful at at scale. We've made a lot of progress um but there's still a tremendous amount of work to do. Um effectively by as government spending is made more efficient and spending is reduced the the taxpayer inflation is reduced um so um one way or another you you will effectively be better off uh if resources in the United States are not wasted.

Um so um and It's it's it's it's a you know it's somewhat up to the Congress and maybe the president to uh you know as to whether specific checks are cut but but whether a check is cut or not if you if you reduce um uh wasteful spending uh the the economy is going to be better off. There will be people will do more useful jobs than before. The total output of goods and services will increase and then the average standard of living will increase.

So that that's uh yeah um I I think the most important lesson in economics is simply uh common sense that the the more people in a country that are engaged in producing useful products and services the better off that country will be. um like you could you could run the sort of thought experiment to say in the limit if we moved everyone in the car industry into the DMV there would be no cars but there would be a lot of regulators.

So then you say well okay well then how many people should be in the government versus not government. Um and generally I think you want to have you want to minimize the number of people in government. There still you know be a lot of people in government but you want to keep that to a minimum and move people from low to negative productivity roles to high productivity roles in the private sector. Yeah. Hey Elon.

So the first time I heard about population collapse I think was from you and Joe Rogan. I grew up in the generation where it was very overpopulation, global warming, a lot of people don't want to have kids. My wife and I just had our first, she's a year. Hi, Congratulations. Hi, John. Thank you. Amazing. Um, and I'm finding out very quickly a lot of these things I was told about having kids, losing personal freedom, it's well worth it.

I mean, I I would recommend to everybody, as I'm sure you would, and we Absolutely. I I mean, I' I've been banging the baby drum for ages. Yes. Um, so my question to you is, what's the most surprising and fulfilling thing you've learned from your kids? Especially, we've seen you around X all the time with Trump. So, what's your most fulfilling thing you've learned from having kids? Uh, yeah, X is X is in the back there.

He, you know, so hopefully he's watching this hopefully. Um, yeah, I I think, you know, I I think nothing makes you happier than kids really is is what is the truth of it. So, um, you know, kids are my greatest source of happiness. Um, and, uh, I really encourage, as as Antonio knows, I've encouraged all my friends and everyone to have kids. Uh, it it is it is concerning, you know, that the United States has been below uh, replacement rate.

The birth rate in the United States has been below replacement rate uh since uh roughly when I was born around 197071 thereabouts. Um and I think last year was the lowest birth rate on record. It was very it was very low. Um and then we we're seeing this trend in uh almost every country on earth. This is this is worrying because it's like well um you know if something doesn't happen you know humanity is going to disappear.

Um, so it's I think very important to have kids. Um, like it's it it you know it's it'll kids will make you very happy and and there's but there's also like we got to keep humanity going here, you know. Uh, no no humans no humanity. It's like Elon practice what he preaches too by the way. He's having lots of kids. That's right. You practice what you preach and Yeah. Yeah. For sure. And he tells all his friends to do it too.

I can tell you that for sure. For sure. Yeah. So, all right. Hi, thanks for coming. Uh, my name is Adam. I'm a postal worker. I'm wondering if you could give some insight into some of the reforms or changes that Doge might be looking at for the postal service. Well, actually, may perhaps I could ask you what what should do Doge be doing with respect to the postal service? I I'll write you a letter. Okay. Okay.

Um I I I sus I suspect you have seen that things are not entirely perfect in the postal service. Um yes. Um so I mean obviously there it's it's you know delivering um mail and packages is very important. Uh you know there's reason for why the postal service was created. Um but uh and and I haven't really had a chance to look at the postal service yet but uh I have I have a little detail on the analysis if you want. Do you do a little bit? Okay.

Sure. Yeah. I mean I wouldn't say that I want to be very general here but um there is this thing about you could tell us like uh there's this thing about large volume users postal service versus small small volume users right so like some company please I've heard of that. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, you probably see it, right?

Like you see there are some companies in the world that use Post Service a lot and pay the same rate as everybody in this room that uses it a little bit. Does that seem fair to you? You see it on the front line. I can't really say. Well, he can't say because he works there. You know, work there. Okay. Doesn't seem fair to me. I don't work there.

Um, so I mean there there are qu there's a bunch of questions about this people are asking that I think are interesting analysis and when you look at the source of truth and the data and you uh make that transparent, I think it's going to be obvious what the right answers are. Yeah. It seems like some companies are not being charged the right amount for package delivery. Um, and there's probably more administrative overhead than there should be.

Um, would be some safe guesses, I suspect. Those are good guesses. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Good guesses. All right. Elon, how are you? Yo, good. How's it going? It's Adam, your number one reply guy on X. Hey, it's Scott Presser. It's good to finally meet in person. Cool. So, I'm glad you like a lot of my stuff. Yeah. Constantly replying to my stuff, liking my stuff, and I'd love to create material because I'm a former Democrat myself, just like you.

Yeah. And I want to help bring over moderate voters from the Democrat party who are disenfranchised. Yeah. And I'd love to be able to create more content to help you out, to help us win more elections, to win the midterms 2028 and on. Um, would I be able to get a follow from your main because you followed me from your old cyber gamer? Oh, I did. Okay. Um, yeah. Uh, at this point I I I Yeah, sure. I'll I'll do that. Sure.

Um, I mean it's it's right now like I used to only follow maybe um you know a few hundred accounts which and it was possible to read a lot most of what they posted but now I think I follow like 1100 accounts which makes it impossible. So so like it's just like I can only see a few things that people post at random essentially. Um so um yeah but I'm I'm trying to digest as much information as my human brain can manage.

Uh so um but yeah, thank you for for your engagement. Um and uh just you know in general like try to um report on what's really happening is is is great. Thank you. Thank you. Um Mr. must thank you so much for being here and bringing attention to what's going on with our Supreme Court here.

It's very important and I think it would have gotten no attention, not even half of what it's getting now um if you hadn't stepped in for good or bad negative press and good press. We think no exactly the totally. I mean obviously for a any kind of special election um is going to get a fraction small fraction of the the attention of a say a presidential election.

Um and uh and and then it you know normally a an election for a judge would not be that big of a deal. Um it just so happens that this in this case it could decide the control of the US House of Representatives. Um which is a yeah a huge deal. Yeah. Yeah. and my personal experience with Judge Crawford. Um I am a family uh that she moved a pedophile right next to our home. What? Really? Yeah.

It is a true story in the ads that you're hearing from Mr. Shiml. I am Wow. one of the homeowners that had to live next to him for many years unaware. Um so the letter that I wrote to her I'm sure played into what we're experiencing now in family court. um family um we're veterans 20 years. It just was not good for him. It was not good for me. And um we're trying to work through our family court situation.

But what we're realizing is the two strategies that they use are indoctrination or intimidation. And if you step up and say we're practicing Catholic family, the result is her band of Mary rogue judges um and the court affiliates and the commissioners will um flood the family court have flooded the family court system. Yeah.

So, I guess my question would be um regardless of what happens with this very important vote, let's not forget what's happening in the family court system in Dayne County, Wisconsin that's being flooded with these rogue judges and affiliates and commissioners who then if you don't subscribe to what they're saying, they will just wipe out your ability to raise your family or proceed with your family in a way that you feel um your culture dictates dictates your religion dictates your your financial background dictates.

Um it has gone completely bananas and um I'm wondering what you can do to keep the light shine on our court system in Dayne County. It does have lasting effect on families and it will breed out our ability to raise our families in the spirit which we feel is most healthy for our our young our children um and and the sanctity of our family. Absolutely.

Um I think that's fundamental to uh life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, which is the foundation of America, that you know that that you you should have control over your family, not the state. The state should not have control of your family. It's insane that people would think that. [Applause] So, uh, we've had friends have to escape California because of this. Yeah. Yeah.

I mean, it's literally had to leave because the state tried to dictate their kids because they're imposing the state's values on the kids and they literally had to leave overnight. More than one friend. We've had the story. Really? Really? Um, yeah. I know.

There's a a thing change the law in California where um if the teachers determine that uh it's in the kid's interest like like if you don't respect like you know I don't know 10-year-old's pronouns or something the the like the state can take your kid in California. So it's it's insane. Um you know it's it's it's state state forced indoctrination.

Um, and if you if you don't match their uh you know, whatever the the state wants, then they can take your kid in California. It's a big deal. Yeah. Exactly. It's a So, it should just be, you know, families should have control over their own circumstances and it should not be the government that uh decides what how your children should be raised. [Applause] Hey Elen, my name is Josh. There's a lot of questions.

I see there is we're going to answer everything at this point. So I'm Please go ahead. Sorry. Go ahead. Thank you for taking the questions. Although a lot of people I agree. So I just I was wondering I seen I noticed that there was another a second Mechzilla being built at the Star Base. Uh are we going to be go for launch for the Aremis mission coming up? I that's a very very sort of space question.

Um so there's there there are um there yeah there are two towers in South Texas and and then two and and we plan to build two towers uh at the Cape in Florida. Uh and then probably some some more elsewhere in the future. But there'll be there'll be twin twin towers at the Cape and twin towers in South Texas Starbase. So all right. Hey Elon, good to meet you. Thank you for everything you're doing for the country and the world. Thank you.

I I have two questions. They asked me to keep it short. Sure. Um well, one, when do you when do you envision uh solving blindness and bringing it that to the masses where it'll be for everyone? And the other is is robo taxi on schedule? Yeah. Uh well there's certainly a wide range of questions tonight. The Yes.

So with for for Neurolink, we we've actually had um Neurolink has had in monkeys a working um uh you know device we call blind sight um where um it's been working well and monkeys are healthy for for a few years now and we're hoping um later this year to do our first uh device implant for human enabling someone who is completely blind to see. Um, but it it's going to be low res at first, like Atari graphics, you know.

So, I want to set expectations appropriately. Uh, so it'll start off with like like very low res, but then over time, I think eventually uh the implant would enable vision that is like superhuman. Um, so that'll be that'd be pretty cool. Um, and then yeah, I think they're currently on track to do um unsupervised full self-driving uh in Austin in June. So I I think we probably will we'll we'll take maybe four more questions.

So just two from that side and two from that side and then we'll call it a night. So go ahead. Oh, thank you so much. First of all, you are beyond absolutely legendary and an absolute true hero. So thank you so much for everything you're doing, achieving, accomplishing. You've done so many impossibles. It is astonishing. Thank you.

But my name is Brian Wright and I've been filming from last year all the way into this year a docue series on finding peace. And during this election year, uh the episode was how many lines do we actually need to cross in order to be able to find peace? And I wanted to ask you where do you feel like we are in this this divide? Are we so far divided as to where there's no coming back to the middle or where do you see us being?

Yeah, we we should restore the Smith Act so that we the government cannot spy or issue propaganda to the people. Um, so um yeah um I don't know. I mean, I I I kind of thought that we're headed in a good direction uh for a while there and then and then the last, you know, month or so, there've been these like like crazy violent things happening against Tesla and and protesting me and whatnot.

And I'm like, this is just nuts, you know, and and and uh you know, a lot of people sort of parading signs around saying that, you know, that President Trump and uh Ilamas should die type of thing. And I'm like, this is really nuts, you know.

Um, but I think the the real issue is like who like who's organizing and funding that like the the same people that organized and funded the, you know, the infiltrators, uh, you know, who who the hecklers earlier tonight. So, it's it's it's whoever they are, you know. Um, and I guess we know some of their names, but it's really Yeah. Yeah. Sus and a bunch of others.

Um, um, I'm not sure really what I sometimes I wonder what is their goal like what what's what's their aim you know I guess is it communism I guess is a part of it or just I don't know um sometimes I wonder like have they thought through what they're if let's say they got their goal what then what you know um so I I don't know I'm hopeful that things calm down that there's um you know we gauge that that people engage in like dialogue but not not violence.

Um and that you know if uh for those who who do push violence um and destruction of property and intimidation obviously that they they need to face uh legal consequences for that. Um so um and and and the the president has has said that you know that that needs to happen. Obviously if people are pushing violence um and destruction of property that that is against the law and and they they need to face the con consequences of that. So thank you.

Yeah. Thank you Elon. Um I constantly hear that the Doge efforts um are going to do things like take away social security payments and reduce other government payments like that. You've touched on it tonight, but yeah. Can you state you you've discussed this at length over the last few months. Can you t talk again about how the Doge efforts are actually going to affect things like the payments and other programs like that?

Yeah, I I I guess it would be helpful because so so I can just state it as crisply and clearly as possible. Uh that Doge will will absolutely ensure that people get their Social Security, make sure they get their Social Security, make sure they get their Medicaid, um and will not be cutting any legitimate payments whatsoever. Crystal clear. I will just add to this.

I I've been there uh working there and I spent about the first three or four weeks of my time in Woodlands actually working in Social Security Administration. Um 100% what you saying is true. Nothing has happened on the ground that would impact the level of payments going to people that legitimately are owed those payments. Period. A lot is going to happen to people that are stealing from the system. Yeah. Yeah. They're not getting the payments.

And you know who's screaming? They are. cuz they're committing fraud and we should take that away from them cuz they're stealing from all of us in this room and our parents and they're going to scream loud and it's going to get louder. But but thank thank you for asking that question because it you know it is something that as obvious as it sound it it's it's a it's a great question because we just need to be very crisp and clear.

Uh Doge will make sure you get your Social Security. Those will make sure you get your Medicaid. There will be no cuts to legitimate payments whatsoever. I'd like to go last if it's okay with the other gentlemen. Can Would you like to go, sir? Please go. Thank you, Mr. Musk. Thank you so much for coming to Wisconsin. Um, I just want to thank you for calling out bad ideas on X.

You do that like every 30 minutes and if I don't see something I'm like, "Wow, you alone." Okay. Yeah. Um Yeah. And we all know that ideas have consequences and bad ideas have victims. And um thank you for speaking up for victims.

And a few nights ago when you spoke uh with Brett Bear when you were being interviewed and he asked you what keeps you up at night and like that other question, you answered and you paused and it was depopulation and I was waiting for you to say like, "Oh, the death threats against my life or uh the national debt or but depopulation." Yeah, depopulation is a really big deal. it's not on people's radar. Why is that?

Um, well, I think I think we we haven't yet evolved to deal with depopulation. You know, it's it's a I guess uh it's it's something we better evolve to deal with uh or or we're going to disappear. Um and and once the depopulation ball starts rolling, you know, it seems to gather up speed.

I mean you can look at sort of cases like Korea and Japan which are um you know much further ahead or behind depending on how you look at it but that like the population decline there is much worse. Japan is an absolute publication population decline. So they're losing about I think roughly a million people a year above population and that's going to accelerate.

Um, Korea is has only a third replacement rate which means that in three generations the country will be three or 4% of its current size. Like basically all that'll be left is a small portion of the capital city. Um, so and I keep waiting for the birth rate to turn around but it doesn't. Um, it seems like population collapse accelerates. Um and uh that's why I think it's it's a very serious matter.

It's it if you believe in humanity at all, you should care about this a lot. Um and then you know that that's sort but that you know that's a sort of long-term thing and in the the short term thing is is remaining is that America needs to be financially solvent. um you know that's that's what Doge is about trying to just make sure America is financially solvent and um and then there's also the risks of AI.

Uh so we want to make sure that that AI is is maximally truth seeeking um and you know ideally has sort of values that most Americans would agree with. um that and that it's a prohuman uh AI that it wants to foster the future of humanity. Um you know those those are the things that I think about. So thanks Elon. My name is Matt Hos like Bonanza big hos. I uh own and operate a small business here in the Fox Valley.

Um, and tomorrow I actually get the honor and the privilege to host Brad Shiml at our shop, Springetti Landscaping. If anyone's in the valley, sounds good. Come down 4 4:30 tomorrow. We're having a shindig to have Brad stop by. He's going to come and give a little speech, get some uh some That's what this was about was Brad's election. And so I just wanted to say, in your opinion, what is Brad gonna do for small business owners like myself?

Um, well, I think he's gonna help get the government off your back. Uh, so that's a big deal. Um, you know, for for anyone that starts a business, you know, it's like you used to just be able to open a store and not get like a zillion permits and licenses and everything. Uh, you know, that's how America, you wanted to make a product, you just made the product.

Um, and you didn't have to satisfy a massive body of regulations and get a permission from all sorts of agencies. So hopefully um Justice Shiml is uh you know supports that and and helps get the government off your back. All right. So let me uh finish by saying obviously at the state level. Yeah, those are the state level be cool. Um but uh just just remember like this the importance of the election on Tuesday is gigantic.

It could it could decide the f the future of the House of Representatives. It could decide then the future of America and the future of the world. So, it's absolutely critical uh that you really you need to just drag friends and family to vote on Tuesday uh for Justice Shiml and for voter ID. So, thank you. Thank you guys. Thank you. Thank you. [Music] I don't want to work. I want to bang on all day. [Applause]

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